Hunter6 said:
skyjedi2005 said:
Hunter6 your forgetting that the best Trek film of all was directed and Helmed by someone who was neither a fan nor well versed in trek lore, Nicholas Meyer. Remember Bennet and Meyer were brought outside of trek after the motion picture to breathe new life into trek.

No, I did not forget Nicholas Meyer.

Nicholas Meyer and Gene Roddenberry were real alike in their visions of Star Trek.

Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek was Horatio Hornblower, but on a starship.

Meyer described his script as "'Hornblower' in outer space", utilizing nautical references and a swashbuckling atmosphere.^[8](Hornblower was an inspiration to Roddenberry and Shatner when making the show, although Meyer was unaware of this).^[26]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_II

Also Nicholas Meyer's ST: II was more like the swashbuckling TOS then ST:TMP.

Nicholas Meyer did not need to know trek lore because he got what Star Trek was about and it showed.

JJ Abrams is NO Nicholas Meyer and it shows.

At least your empire wasn't taken down by Ewoks.