skyjedi2005 said:Hunter6 your forgetting that the best Trek film of all was directed and Helmed by someone who was neither a fan nor well versed in trek lore, Nicholas Meyer. Remember Bennet and Meyer were brought outside of trek after the motion picture to breathe new life into trek.
No, I did not forget Nicholas Meyer.
Nicholas Meyer and Gene Roddenberry were real alike in their visions of Star Trek.
Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek was Horatio Hornblower, but on a starship.
Meyer described his script as "'Hornblower' in outer space", utilizing nautical references and a swashbuckling atmosphere.[8](Hornblower was an inspiration to Roddenberry and Shatner when making the show, although Meyer was unaware of this).[26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_II
Also Nicholas Meyer's ST: II was more like the swashbuckling TOS then ST:TMP.
Nicholas Meyer did not need to know trek lore because he got what Star Trek was about and it showed.
JJ Abrams is NO Nicholas Meyer and it shows.