Dangerous - yur right, my bad I'll drop it, just found the ignore button so now I don't have to see it, thx!!!
AxiaEuxine - lol Right! Like Star Wars needs more scenes with ships landing lol soooo many landing scenes in the PT, I agree GREAT mock-up Vaderios! but unnecessary imo The Bamboo is dope tho!!!
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sketchrob said:Dangerous - yur right, my bad I'll drop it, just found the ignore button so now I don't have to see it, thx!!!
Excellent. Cuz it was your prob anyway. It was you who was being bothered by it. Not me :) The whole thing there was just juvenile..................
Again back to Empire thanx:
Why dont all the Stormtroopers have Temuera Morrison's voice like Bobba?
Dangerous Incorporated said:Why dont all the Stormtroopers have Temuera Morrison's voice like Bobba?
Cos its shit!
;)
^^ Fair enough. I persoanlly dont like his voice either but for continuity reasons I thought it should be that way which is why Bobba voice was changed later.
Why dont all the Stormtroopers have Temuera Morrison's voice like Bobba?
The canonical reason (I guess EU) is that most of the Stormtroopers are not clones by that point - most are recruits/drafted. Most of the clones have died or retired (given that they age at the double rate).
Histeria said:Why dont all the Stormtroopers have Temuera Morrison's voice like Bobba?
The canonical reason (I guess EU) is that most of the Stormtroopers are not clones by that point - most are recruits/drafted. Most of the clones have died or retired (given that they age at the double rate).
But if Bobba is still around (and his voice was changed) then the Stormtroopers should still have Jangas voice no?
And is the 'white C3-PO' footage at the Hoth command center available at all?
Monroville said:teharri said:I am looking forward to seeing the emperor hologram now that it has been a year since we first saw it with ANH:R. I want to see the side view of that scene.
I know this has been brought up (and Ady, if you made a decision, a simple confirmation will do and I will start re-updating the ESB:R list), but didn't someone suggest making Ozzel and Harriet... uh, Piett a hologram as opposed to be onscreen (ala their holograms are being projected by the same unit the Emperor hails from)?
yeh i remember this idea but i will be keeping it as a viewscreen
Bingowings said:I just happened across this image on the great meditation chamber debate, it might be fiddleaboutable, It's Veers waiting to see Vader (must be a deleted scene) :
cool find. Totally impossible to create a scene from a still though, especially one that is black & white and such low res. i don't think an extra shot really needs to be added anyway
ChainsawAsh said:vaderios said:Something that CAN fixed. Obvious he is not David. Armor and mask floating...
Even when he rotates there is a previous shot that can be used reversed.
-Angel
Are the ones on the right your fixes? If so, they're fantastic - I've always thought the ones on the left looked a little ... off.
what's throwing this scene off is the fact that the helmet is underneath the chest plate armour for some reason. i'm going to leave it as it is though. It looks to me more that Vader had to quickly replace the helmet when Piette entered and that the suit isn't on correctly. Not only that but changing the helmet in a shot where he spins around in the chair probably couldn't be pulled off
Chrille said:TESB is unique in that all the imperial officers are wearing perfect rank badges and cylinders. For one who is into these things, its very easy to determine the ranks of for instance Piett, Ozzel or Veers by mearly looking at their rank badges. By comparison ANH's rank system is terribly vague, with officers wearing a confusing mixture of red, blue and yellow. And let's not even talk about the mess in ROTJ, were virtually everyone seems to have the same rank!
There is one officer that is wrong, though, and it seems like a shame when everyone else are perfect. He appears briefly as an extra without lines in Vader's first scene. As Ozzel and Piett are argueing and Vader is making his way over to join them, the camera pans down to the trench and an officer standing looking up at Vader. He is wearing the rank insignia of a navy captain, even though Piett is captain of the ship at that time. However, if another cylinder is added to his other cheast pocket, he becomes a commander instead, which would clear it all up.
I have mentioned this earlier some time ago, so forgive me ady if you've already addressed this, but I wanted to make sure it hadn't been forgotten in the ocean of posts here.
i won't be doing anything to the rank pins in ESB:R. this type of thing has never bothered me
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Why shorten the Wampa scene?
HotRod said:Cos it's shit!!
Why is it shit? The SE version is better than the original version.
Each to their own! As was said, its Adys edit. Thats like some models saying that they dont like to show their boobs as its better to leave it to the imagination but Id rather see the boobs. Just like here (no I dont wanna c the wampas boobs), Id prefer to see the wampa. If you were there, wouldnt it be scary seeing the wampa come after you? (Not if you're a future Jedi!)
Sevb32 said:Yes but weve seen what the Wampa looks like for years, kinda hard to put the cat back in the bag. I don't mind shortening the scene a bit, but to expect me or most people to forget all memory of what I saw hundreds of time is ridiculous
SE version better than the original? are you serious? All the added wampa footage takes away what should be the main focus of the scene... Luke. It originally focused solely on Luke with brief glimpses of the wampa approaching. The tension was built as Luke regained consciousness and began his escape just as the wampa reaches him. Now in the SE version the focus is shifted towards the Wampa. It takes away the whole mystery when the wampa is full on in your face throughout the scene.It has nothing to do with the fact that we have now seen the wampa so the mystery is gone at all. Plus it will eb a new Wampa in this movie anyway. lol
And Dangerous Incorporated can you please change your sig pic. Its way too big for the forum and its getting confusing when scrolling through for the mock-ups
vaderios said:
Well this took me a while... working 1080p is fun :P
We can see the establishing shot that a X-wing is landed an R2 unit aproach the door and next shot luke its inside the building and R2 enters from behind.
-Angel
again interesting but this would be an unnecessary addition
GoodMusician said:hey adywan, was curious how things were going...
Things are going ok at the moment. the shots i'm working on at the moment are taking up a lot of my time. they are just brief shots but each one is taking about 3 days solid to complete.
i've just changed the comparison pics on the first page because some of the shots have now changed. plus i added a couple more
One thing that annoys me is in the SE is that when Han & Leia are walking into the trap of the waiting Vader, we have the new SFX that shows a better view of Cloudy City and a lift. But in the next shot we have the original browny white background again.
looking very very good! the new matts in cloud city look extremely impressive. big well done!
now am i the only one that likes the over blown saber glow in the fight leading up to lukey-boy loosing his hand? i know it's a bit of a continuity error but i guess i just like the glow iness.
are lightsabers a moot poit? IMO lightsabers should glow and cast light unlike in the PT.
did that make any sense?
-doodie
Dangerous Incorporated said:But if Bobba is still around (and his voice was changed) then the Stormtroopers should still have Jangas voice no?
Clone troopers aged at double rate, Boba at single rate.
Very nice adywan, very nice!
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I wonder why Ady got rid of pretty much all the orange reflection on the floor when Leia, Lando, Chewie and R2 pass by the railing. Surely the scenery would reflect a bit of that sunset color on the floor? I know he was correcting the reflections which were transparent. I know it doesn't need to be as much as before but it seems it needs a little bit of the orange reflection.
Ady are you waitin for the exact anniver. of ESB to release the trailer or it's anniver month? Which would mean May 1st, of course!
Dangerous Incorporated said:One thing that annoys me is in the SE is that when Han & Leia are walking into the trap of the waiting Vader, we have the new SFX that shows a better view of Cloudy City and a lift. But in the next shot we have the original browny white background again.
Dude, you really need to read all the previous posts. All the points you keep bringing up have been answered one way or another!!
And for the love of god, change your sig. It's more tha just one person asking now!
HotRod said:And for the love of god, change your sig. It's more tha just one person asking now!
Yeah, even Adywan himself has asked. It is a might big. :p Maybe turn it into a small banner?
HotRod said:Dude, you really need to read all the previous posts. All the points you keep bringing up have been answered one way or another!!And for the love of god, change your sig. It's more tha just one person asking now!
Thats very nicely done comparison pics Ady! I love them. Pity the floating mask is stays. Anyways keep it up
I agree with HotRod here
-Angel
Edit: Ady are you going to do something when luke enters to this hole? I mean a camera shaking or what. The camera moving looks to fake at the end.
Dangerous Incorporated said:sketchrob said:That Deathtroopers sig is just obnoxious... sorry but its tru I keep thinking its an actual mock-up but then I realize its your sig... *sigh* just use it as your avatar, is it THAT important?
lol How is it obnoxious? I like it as my siggy and thats were its staying soz. BTW Ive tried multiple times to make it my avy and has hasnt worked. Its THAT important that you have to go off-topic about someones sig? Move on dude.
Back to Empire:
When Han is put into Carbon Freeze, he's wearing a tunic style shirt but when Han is frozen, he's wearing the shirt from ANH. Then in ROTJ when Han is unfrozen, he's wearing a double breasted shirt. Can this be fixed up at all or is that to complex?
I have studied that shirt, and the shirt he is wearing when he is lowered in the carbonite pit is the same as when he is unthawed in ROTJ, watch and study it.
But while he is frozen inside the block, the collar outlines of the shirt look more like the ANH shirt.
Ady, Where this building/Wall is in the next shots?
-Angel
vaderios said:Ady, Where this building/Wall is in the next shots?
-Angel
That's a great question! I also wonder if his clouds here will match the fly through shots just before the falcon lands, it would be much harder to change the clouds in those shots because of the movement, and I also wonder what he is doing about the large building in the SE behind the platform during to approach just before it lands, it would be hard to erase because of movement, or maybe it's not perfectly lined behind the platform maybe it's that tallest building he added to the far right on the edge.
adywan said:Chrille said:TESB is unique in that all the imperial officers are wearing perfect rank badges and cylinders. For one who is into these things, its very easy to determine the ranks of for instance Piett, Ozzel or Veers by mearly looking at their rank badges. By comparison ANH's rank system is terribly vague, with officers wearing a confusing mixture of red, blue and yellow. And let's not even talk about the mess in ROTJ, were virtually everyone seems to have the same rank!
There is one officer that is wrong, though, and it seems like a shame when everyone else are perfect. He appears briefly as an extra without lines in Vader's first scene. As Ozzel and Piett are argueing and Vader is making his way over to join them, the camera pans down to the trench and an officer standing looking up at Vader. He is wearing the rank insignia of a navy captain, even though Piett is captain of the ship at that time. However, if another cylinder is added to his other cheast pocket, he becomes a commander instead, which would clear it all up.
I have mentioned this earlier some time ago, so forgive me ady if you've already addressed this, but I wanted to make sure it hadn't been forgotten in the ocean of posts here.
i won't be doing anything to the rank pins in ESB:R. this type of thing has never bothered me
But you do have it under "things I will be doing". Don't take this the wrong way, but I thought you wanted to address errors. This is an error, however minor. Just like wires up peoples sleves and such. I know it doesn't bother you, but it has always bothered me every time I se that shot since I'm into these kind of things. Since I knew Lucas would likely never notice let alone correct it, I guess I was hoping that an extra cylinder (not the badge itself, that's already correct) on one single guy for a 2 second shot would be possible for you to do. It's your edit and your choice, just know that I would really appriciate it if you reconsidered.
Anyway, I'm really liking how this project is coming along and the discussions here are interesting. I'm glad to be back. I do feel some things, like a the ladder, should be left like it is though. I always assumed Luke brought it with him so that he would be able to get in and out of the ship (since I don't think he knew how to levitate with the Force yet when he came to Dagobah). I guess it folds in after he gets into the ship, unless I'm missing something?
vaderios said:Ady, Where this building/Wall is in the next shots?
-Angel
oops. thats one of the old shots. I've updated the screenshots on page 1with the correct image
Chrille said:i won't be doing anything to the rank pins in ESB:R. this type of thing has never bothered me
But you do have it under "things I will be doing". Don't take this the wrong way, but I thought you wanted to address errors. This is an error, however minor.
which list are you looking at because i can't find mention that i will be fixing this on page 1
The new pics look great, Ady. It is nice to see Luke without his arm stuffed into his shirt. The new detail to the Falcon's cockpit on the Bespin landing platform is a great change from the old matte painting.
adywan said:oops. thats one of the old shots. I've updated the screenshots on page 1with the correct image
Awesome then! I love the open look.
-Angel
My bad. The section (on page 1) is titled "Some changes that are planned so far for this edit". The rank thing is on it, though accompanied by a comment about not being too bothered with it. Considering your comments, I guess it belong more properally under "things I won't be doing". Which is a shame, it being an error in the movie. Anyway, I'll stop whining now (since it's your edit, not mine) and settle with saying that you would make this one fan happy if you did it.
Btw, I love the new screen shots on page one. The one of Luke and his hand in particular. That's another thing that has bugged me. Great work, ady!
Ady, I know you said the X-Wing on the landing platform is not needed, but could you put the X-Wing in the background of this shot below somehow? That background matte really is kinda bland IMHO
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/celluloid_jam/Screen_Captures/Star_Wars_ESB/ESB_1000-1460/?action=view¤t=SW5ESB_1115.jpg
Any plans to replace the content of this window below?
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/celluloid_jam/Screen_Captures/Star_Wars_ESB/ESB_500-999/?action=view¤t=SW5ESB_971.jpg
And also there appears to be a window they pass in the shots below just before going into the dining room, will anything be done with this one? It's seems out of place because it seems the dining area is too close to it in the configuration of the sets.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/celluloid_jam/Screen_Captures/Star_Wars_ESB/ESB_500-999/?action=view¤t=SW5ESB_949.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/celluloid_jam/Screen_Captures/Star_Wars_ESB/ESB_500-999/?action=view¤t=SW5ESB_950.jpg
And here once they are in the dining room is another partial window.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/celluloid_jam/Screen_Captures/Star_Wars_ESB/ESB_500-999/?action=view¤t=SW5ESB_978.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/celluloid_jam/Screen_Captures/Star_Wars_ESB/ESB_500-999/?action=view¤t=SW5ESB_979.jpg
Chrille said:My bad. The section (on page 1) is titled "Some changes that are planned so far for this edit". The rank thing is on it, though accompanied by a comment about not being too bothered with it. Considering your comments, I guess it belong more properally under "things I won't be doing". Which is a shame, it being an error in the movie. Anyway, I'll stop whining now (since it's your edit, not mine) and settle with saying that you would make this one fan happy if you did it.
Btw, I love the new screen shots on page one. The one of Luke and his hand in particular. That's another thing that has bugged me. Great work, ady!
Yeah it's just a shot or two, and who knows, if you are nice he might still alter it even though he says otherwise.
The main original error in ESB only that the rank bars were on the wrong sides in flipped shots, but they corrected that for the DVDs, but in ROTJ it still does need work. Somehow it looked as if Piett had been demoted in ROTJ because he had less rank blocks, even he still was Admiral.
