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Owen-Lars-Kenobi said:

Matt_Kenobi said:

doubleofive said:

The more I think about it, there really is no excuse for Vader to not have his helmet on.  It doesn't matter how long we make the hallway or anything.  How come people can just go in and open the door without knocking or anything like that?

 

 I would imagine that the helmet has to be uncomfortable at best, and he might want to have it off when he could.  Also, only a few, select, people would have access to that room.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that Vader was experimenting with the force to see how long he could sustain himself withought the helmet for short periods of time.. or something to that effect.

In the "Shadows Of The Empire" novel Vader lies down in a iron lung booth so he can take all the gear off and keeps trying to use the Force to heal himself but it never works (I hate the idea myself I prefer to think of him locked in that thing all the time only getting his mask off in Jedi).

Presumably Vader likes his top officers to see him with his hat off as it's icky and adds to the general fear factor that Vader gives off.

Piett etc would then go off and spread it about just how hideous he is under that armour, which would grow more and more fearsome with each telling adding to his infamy.

It also shows that Vader as a sort of pride in his scars (like Darth Maul's tatts), an inverted vanity, each burn and cut was earned through fighting and he survives because of his will to do so.

Presumably people would have to have clearence to enter the chamber and only get there when Vader wanted them to, he's breaking in a new Admiral and seems to want to impress on Piett that he isn't a step on the ladder like Ozzel.

He is sitting there with his back to the door in a confined space with his scars showing almost tempting Piett to bump him off knowing he couldn't.

Like Palpatine tempting Luke by reminding him that he has no weapons and Luke could strike him down at any moment.

doubleofive said:

The more I think about it, there really is no excuse for Vader to not have his helmet on.  It doesn't matter how long we make the hallway or anything.  How come people can just go in and open the door without knocking or anything like that?

 One of the people out in the hall is a guard. 

My 2¢ say that the long hallway should be the choice because it is cooler than just having it open up to being just off of the bridge.  While the elevator option works as well, I just don't see it as ominous to a long hall.  Maybe a new shot could be added focusing on Piett's boots as he walks along the corridor before he gets to the door.  I am imagining a shot similiar to the one in ANH of the troopers feet as the troopers and Vader arrive at Leia's cell on the death star.

vaderios said:

I know ady will consider to change the poor matte of this shot. I just took the previously seen matte and matched so the dead black areas to be reduced. Ignore the skyline

 

-Angel

love the reflections!

a short side track idea for a special feature...

To expand on the special feature on ANH revisited of the pop up track (pop up of all the changes), it would be cool to do a comparison track.

You can watch the whole movie with SE on top (proper 'all rights reserved' legal info attached) and Revisited on bottom . You can then add all the pop ups on the SE half of the screen of all the errors/things changed.

vaderios"

-Angel

One thing that always stuck out to me about this shot was the stormtroopers shoulder armor. The first trooper out the door (on the left), his right shoulder armor is coming off throughout this whole shoot out sequence.

Hey, I'm in the credits! That's awesome, ady. I'm flattered. I felt down and it actually cheered me up a bit. Thanks, man.

... heh, I must sound terribly slow for not noticing until now. Sorry for the OT, now back to your regularily scheduled debate :)

Btw, I like the idea of a hallway, just so long as it isn't too big. Vader needs quick access to the bridge. Also make sure that any change matches the other scenes of people entering the room. Like Veers in the beginning and later when Vader walks in there to talk to the Emperor.

Brimley said:

vaderios said:

Something I always bothering me was the the scene when vader puts his helmet.

We see Piett enter the room and from the outside we see officers walking around and same set from different angle

Maybe vader's chamber suits a place more silent and deep to executor, not in a place when he can be visible.

So,

-Angel

That's interesting you think that, because I always liked how Vader positioned his chamber.  I think it shows how he wants to be close to the action.

 

 I too think that the hallway outside should be changed to a more secluded are. Great point Angel!

Davnes007 said:

An odd idea for Vader's hallway.

Is that background a picture of the Millenium Falcon from the Science of Star Wars exhibit? Either that or a behind-the-scenes shot.

That's the window matte that is used twice, once when Lando gives his announcement, and of course here when Leia and Lando shooting at the troopers it is reversed. Annoying to the detail oriented.

On second thought, perhaps it would be enough to just delete the 3 officers and keep the background intact? There is another door seen behind Piett, and without those people standing there, it would look like Piett had to go through that too in order to reach Vader's room.

vaderios said:

There is a missing window.

-Angel

What I don't understand is why the windows stop at that point at all.

Most of the buildings in Cloud City seem to be curved or round so if windows are justified on most of the wall in view, surely it should go all the way around (stopping at structural intersections and the like rather than where the camera was placed).

What made Star Wars interesting was the feeling of realistically lived in and live-inable fantasy realm (droids that had dings in them like well used vacuum cleaners etc). When Vader is first introduced he is framed like he is just there  and not posing for an oil painting and it feels more true somehow.

I like the idea of adding the windows (it makes sense after all) but there should be a feeling that the buildings were designed to work and live in rather than just look better in a particular frame.

vaderios said:

Instead of black it is cool to have a bespin in the distance as the falcon leaves from the antenna that luke was.

 

-Angel

 Nice!