Vaderisnothayden said:
C3PX said:
I also don't see what is so wrong with the story making everything from ROTJ "come together in a nice little bow". Leia had to get the detonator and the bounty hunter armor from someplace, what is so wrong about the story explaining where she got it from.

In ROTJ it looked like the bounty hunter disguise was a cool thing the main characters had come up with. Shadows takes that away from them and makes it somebody else's idea.

Shadows is full of bogus stuff that doesn't fit in and doesn't fit the films and a lot of bullshit "explanation" for how things got the way they did in ROTJ. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't pushed as THE story of what happened between ESB and ROTJ, but it was and as such you're effectively force-fed this third rate fan fiction as a rightful part of the Star Wars saga. Lucas liked it, which is a bad sign. And he stuffed Bash Fender's bleedin ship into the SE. Expanded universe doesn't belong in the OT.

Xizor was a Mary Sue, as was Bash Fender and Jix, and they flogged Boba Fett but good in the comic, which just creeps me out. And the comic even had Jabba talking in basic, which doesn't fit him at all.

I agree that a lot of the "ROTJ" set-up felt awkwardly inserted, and a bit unnneccessary. I'd never laid awake at night wondering how Leia got a thermal detonator.

I'm confused at your objection that it was pushed as THE storyline. Isn't all EU "THE' storyline either between, after, or before the real stories of the movie?

I don't see how Xixor is a 'Mary Sue.' He's the villain, does villainous things to forward the plot, is clearly and repeatedly thwarted by the heroes and then pwned by the other villains.

I dislike the term 'Mary Sue' in general, but Thrawn is one of the few places the application of it seems clear. Thrawn is a new character who is smarter, better, and cooler than the actual Star Wars heroes, and by 'Outbound Flight' we learn he's clearly morally in the right as well, only wanting to unite the galaxy to fight the Yuhzhong Vohg. Xixor is none of these things. He's a despicable villain who presents challenges that the heroes overcome by being better than he is.