discostewart said:Stewart says: Its tricky but i personally would put a very short version of the prison escape in.
Actually, I don't have a problem with most of the prison scenes (apart from the escape by hot air balloon, which could never be successful), if these were two separate movies.
In my version only night passes between the two parts. It just can't make sense that Lex would have enough time to plan an escape, invent that black box, etc.
STEWART SAYS: Actually on rewatching it does work, he just thinks their arm wrestle is pathetic. One thing i noticed is the sound cut is a bit abrupt on the window throw scene though ;) Thats probably what made it stick out first time round. Also i would take just a short segment of the town street scene and put it before the arm wrestle scene as its just a usual editing tactic to have an establishing shot (ie ok, now we are in a small town).
Yes, I agree that an establishing shot would make the scene work better. I'm going to try a couple things. Thanks for your suggestions.
side note: I did think about reinserting the "cop car scene", most of the schtick can be taken out of it with clever editing (the chessy lines and hand blowing could be removed). This would:
Ugh... that really is an awful scene. I understand your points. I just don't see it fitting into my edit at all.
STEWART SAYS: True, yet as you repairing the scripting issues from the original, is there is any other non-time dependent scene (ie a scene that can easily be moved forward, that isnt linear to the story), to "suggest" more time has passed.
I hear you. I'll take a look at it.
FINAL IDEAS:
I know if u do my ideas, ive lengthened the film, but mostly in areas where the flow is already good, and only with very shoert scenes. i hope im helping and not being annoying, i did do editing at media college but a looooooong time ago. :)
Not annoying at all. I appreciate the input. :)
- the bit where superman tries to hug his dad i dont think translates well, ilike the intention but it just looks odd. Could u cut after "my son" somwehere?
Yeah, it is a little odd, and has been edited a bit already to make it feel a bit more natural. But I like it because its one of the only scenes that shows his affection for his father, and it also shows Kalel's loneliness, his inability to have any physical contact with the only person who he can really tell his secrets to. Which makes his giving up Jorel for Lois Lane more meaningful.
- if u wanted to lose a scene from part 1 the whole Luthor swimming scene could be removed (sound editing permitting), as it doesnt further any plot really. So u go straight from the ice palace "my son"scene to "look ma no wires".
Well the scene serves a couple purposes for me. I edited so Ms. T shows some defiance, and that she's becoming fascinated with Superman, both of which I need to do to make her changed motive for free-ing superman realistic. It also has the news reporter, which if I didn't use, it would make my use of a news reporter at the end even more out of place. On a minor note, it shows that Lex is wearing wigs, which explains why his hair style changes every scene. It also sets up a little mystery of what his "crime of the century" is.
- One other thing, in the ice palace, i would consider reinserting the other crystal being tried first, as it just gets rid of that niggle of him choosing the right one first, plus it gives an indication that he learns other stuff while there "son of jorel " etc.n Just seemed a harsh edit for me.
Ok, I'll take another look at it. Although, since we no longer see him leaving, it can be assumed that he plays with the controls all day, and learns all sorts of things off camera.
I hope some of this is useful, i loving the edit and desperately wanna own the dvd ;) when you releasing the final file ?
Sometime this year, after I get my ass in gear. :)
Thanks for the input!