Monroville said:Again, I know I'm being an ass here,
You said it pal.
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vbangle said:Monroville said:Again, I know I'm being an ass here,
You said it pal.
Common, don't be mean, we all make mistakes (as the astrodroid said retracting his interface prong from the dustbin) ;-)
He shoulda made that left turn at Albuquerque.
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Sorry moved to EP V
Uh.. unfortunately wrong Revisited thread Deckard.
@Ziz: I hear the North Pole's 6-month vacation is better than two weeks in Pismo Beach... ;)
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1Shouta said:Well if that's the case then I guess I can just forget about watching Revisited on a TV then. But thanks for the information, the problem is that downloading the 1-gig .avi took a day and a half, so I absolutely cannot download something thats 4/8 gigs...
But anyways, thanks for clearing things up.
Not necasserily, I purchased the fullscreen dvd boxset a long time ago before I understood about such things, and now I downloaded the 2 gig avi files for them to burn and put in my dvd cases to have them in wide screen and they looked gorgeous.
Also, I thought I'd announce here than I am, with permission, going to give the audio in ANH:R a revamp and just distribute the ac3 file for you guys that care enough about audio to mux yourselves.
What I'll be doing is removing MOST dialogue from the 2004 mix there and replacing it from the 1993 pcm tracks with some slight noise reduction. Not only does it sound great, but it's more consistent than the 2004 mix which (was used for this edit) sounds horrible in spots because Lucasfilm felt the need to splice all dialogue from a number of different sources together, the result terrible. (see the trash compactor sequence, which sounds loads worse than on the pcm track). After I've finished with that I'm going to apply a carefully developed EQ setting to most places (except where battle of the heroes comes in, because obviously it woujld make it sound wierd) to improve tone quality to the rest of the trilogy, instead of sounding thin like it does now, or like it was recorded in a tin can.
@Possessed: Actually, the '97 SE surround mix from the Japanese laserdissc was used. Not disagreeing that it could use some work, but it still manages to be better than the '04 mix.
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bkev said:@Possessed: Actually, the '97 SE surround mix from the Japanese laserdissc was used. Not disagreeing that it could use some work, but it still manages to be better than the '04 mix.
Ah, well thanks for the clarification. I just assumed it was the 04 mix because of some of the issues with the dialogue that I remembered from the 2004 mix, but I haven't watched the official 2004 dvd since revisited came out so I didn't remember. Now that you mention it I did compare and it does sound better than the offical 04 mix. Actually I think I will listen to the revisited track again and see if it needs to be completely replaced dialogue. I know the trash compactor scene could benefit from this, but I may not need to do it for the whole thing like originally planned. Perhaps I could do the trash compactor scene and upload a low video quality avi but with full audio quality of the trash compactor scene to show what I'm doing?
Yes, I think that would be rather interesting. Always good to see how things can be improved on.
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bkev said:Yes, I think that would be rather interesting. Always good to see how things can be improved on.
I'll probably have the scene up later today. (I already did this scene as a test so I pretty much just need to touch it up a bit before I upload it.)
Okay, here's the trash compactor scene. Video is shit to save space. Only a little bit of the scene is used. Audio is full quality. The audio is not perfectly synced, but don't worry this is because of offtiming in me inserting the video to see what's going on and not in the audio, everything is timed exactly the same as Revisited.http://rapidshare.com/files/204250774/Possessed_Trash_Compactor_Preview.avi.html
I've decided against completely reinsterting the dialogue because of differences in ambience, and rather just graphic equalizing certain lines to sound better/blend better, and only using the pcm if it was REALLY bad. I did that once here, "Absoloutly your worship look I had everything under control until you led us down here" has been replaced. Several other lines were graphic equalized. Equalization over the whole thing just to improve quality.
Could you do it with a little better video quality? It was so far pixelated that you couldn't see the lip sync, which I think is part of what you were concerned about in the first place, right?
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Ziz said:Could you do it with a little better video quality? It was so far pixelated that you couldn't see the lip sync, which I think is part of what you were concerned about in the first place, right?
No actually the video isn't the point at all. I revamped the audio. The video is just there so you can tell what scene it is. I'm not concerned about sync. Just listen to the audio and compare it to Revisited, it's much better I think (not that Ady didn't do a great job with Revisited, but his skills were much more in the video department, and his audio edits are good but he didn't really touch up the source). When I finish it I will distribute an ac3 without a video for people to mux themselves.
Possessed said:Ziz said:Could you do it with a little better video quality? It was so far pixelated that you couldn't see the lip sync, which I think is part of what you were concerned about in the first place, right?
No actually the video isn't the point at all. I revamped the audio. The video is just there so you can tell what scene it is. I'm not concerned about sync. Just listen to the audio and compare it to Revisited, it's much better I think (not that Ady didn't do a great job with Revisited, but his skills were much more in the video department, and his audio edits are good but he didn't really touch up the source). When I finish it I will distribute an ac3 without a video for people to mux themselves.
Actually Han's line that you replaced stands out and is quite jarring. I think it may be because Leia's line echos and either her echo changes just before Han speaks or her echo is cut off, either way I'm sorry but to me its jarring and noticeable. Maybe you could try to blend Han's line a little better?
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vbangle said:Possessed said:Ziz said:Could you do it with a little better video quality? It was so far pixelated that you couldn't see the lip sync, which I think is part of what you were concerned about in the first place, right?
No actually the video isn't the point at all. I revamped the audio. The video is just there so you can tell what scene it is. I'm not concerned about sync. Just listen to the audio and compare it to Revisited, it's much better I think (not that Ady didn't do a great job with Revisited, but his skills were much more in the video department, and his audio edits are good but he didn't really touch up the source). When I finish it I will distribute an ac3 without a video for people to mux themselves.
Actually Han's line that you replaced stands out and is quite jarring. I think it may be because Leia's line echos and either her echo changes just before Han speaks or her echo is cut off, either way I'm sorry but to me its jarring and noticeable. Maybe you could try to blend Han's line a little better?
Well yeah that was just hastily thrown together for the preview, just to show what I'm doing. I think the reason it's jarring is because of the difference in background ambience (which I will fix). The echoes wouldn't be the problem, because the echoes are in the other channels and I only cut things from the center channel. (eq to all channels though)
I will spend much more time with blending it in when I make the final version.
But other than that did everything sound good?
Wouldn't this topic work better in the after Adywan thread?
Strictly speaking (unless Ady makes announcements to contrary) ANH:R is done with and anyone making further adjustments to it is effectively making a new edit.
Possessed said:vbangle said:Possessed said:Ziz said:Could you do it with a little better video quality? It was so far pixelated that you couldn't see the lip sync, which I think is part of what you were concerned about in the first place, right?
No actually the video isn't the point at all. I revamped the audio. The video is just there so you can tell what scene it is. I'm not concerned about sync. Just listen to the audio and compare it to Revisited, it's much better I think (not that Ady didn't do a great job with Revisited, but his skills were much more in the video department, and his audio edits are good but he didn't really touch up the source). When I finish it I will distribute an ac3 without a video for people to mux themselves.
Actually Han's line that you replaced stands out and is quite jarring. I think it may be because Leia's line echos and either her echo changes just before Han speaks or her echo is cut off, either way I'm sorry but to me its jarring and noticeable. Maybe you could try to blend Han's line a little better?
Well yeah that was just hastily thrown together for the preview, just to show what I'm doing. I think the reason it's jarring is because of the difference in background ambience (which I will fix). The echoes wouldn't be the problem, because the echoes are in the other channels and I only cut things from the center channel. (eq to all channels though)
I will spend much more time with blending it in when I make the final version.
But other than that did everything sound good?
It would be interesting to hear the final version...
Also Bingowings has a good point. Maybe you could start your own thread about this mix?
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Bingowings said:Wouldn't this topic work better in the after Adywan thread?
Strictly speaking (unless Ady makes announcements to contrary) ANH:R is done with and anyone making further adjustments to it is effectively making a new edit.
I did talk about it in the After adywan thread but not everybody checks there I figured more people would be interested if I posted it here. And I'm not really making a new edit, just a new audio mix for people who know how can mux.
Could anybody give me some help as to obtaining the 1997 surround mix? I would like to use it for this project in places as it's in surround and I've heard it's better than the 2004 mixes.
Hi there
Excuse me for talking of something completely else (while it remains about SW:R) but I'm downloading the Purist DVD-5 via Rapidshare (because there is very few seeders for the torrent), and the fact is ONE RAR archive is missing (the 14th one), and I was wondering if someone happened to know where I could find the file...
Thanks for listening guys.
All right I got it.
Thanks TMBTM :)
cool :)
Never mind about needing help with the 97 mix, I have a torrent of Ady's hi def a new hope almost downloaded from 3 days ago just so I can extract the audio from it.
Boy... this is an ordeal...
Quick question: Is the DVD-9 version any higher quality than the DVD-5 version, or is it just that the DVD-9 has special features added?
The DVD-9 is full quality, while the DVD-5 is compressed. On a normal television it may be hard to see the difference, but display it on an HDTV and it will be more conspicuous. I'd recommend the DVD-9 for that and the bonus features, which are all very interesting.