skyjedi2005 said:
You know what i forgot to add Obi Wan's Inane Dialogue to non Suit Hayden Vader. " Anakin, don't try it i have the high ground" Then Anakin " You underestimate my power"lol.
That high ground thing really didn't make much sense. The Jedi have been shown getting around worse obstacles. And they've been shown jumping so high that Annie should have been able to jump clean over Kenobi's lightsaber.
Lucas vision of star wars rather than remain static has been a constantly evolving and Updated thing, so much so that no version of the movies is ever considered finished of the original trilogy they are all rough cuts to find that one perfect cut that fit his original vision.
Well, his vision of it evolved during the great 76-83 Star wars period too, but none of that dose of revisionism betrayed the spirit of it or destroyed it the way his later revisionism did. Plus he was basically caught up in one long period of Star Wars creativity from making the first film through making ROTJ, but with the later stuff he seems to have taken a long break from Star wars and then come back with a totally different attitude. You can accept change more as part of the one same extended creative period. Leaving and coming back later with a totally different vision is different.
Yeah i am as much guilty as the next person for wanting more star wars beyond the original trilogy
I looked forward to the new Star wars films for so long. And after I'd waited the majority of two decades he gave us that shit.
None of the prequels made me as depressed and betrayed feeling as i was when i left the theater after seeing Indiana Jones IV despite some moments i truly enjoyed in the film, the movie was totally uneven and ruined by Lucas stupid modern cgi sensibility of wackiness that some really get a kick out of. Like a bad parody of the older films i felt embarrassed at the cheesiness of the fridge scene. Yeah it was funny i will admit, but only in a are you fucking kidding me kind of way.
I don't hate Indy 4. I enjoyed seeing Ford back in the role. I like Shia LaBeouf and I think he makes a good son for Indy. I have no problems with gophers or prarie dogs or whatever they were. But I have many issues with the film. If they had to do aliens they should have done classic aliens, not this silly interdimensional shit. And they should have done them in a way that involved more than a load of empty mysterious show. The aliens plot was done so badly. The film was blander than previous Indy films and things which should have felt harsh or threatening felt less so than equivalent things in previous Indy films. This film had less spirit and feeling than other Indy films. And the visual style had this bland washed out feel which really affects the feeling of the film. Certainly this film was an example of Indy being prequelized. We're kind of lucky Hayden didn't show up. Can you imagine if they'd cast Hayden instead of Shia?
Whereas, the later two prequels struck me as total shit on first viewing. With both of those films I expected something and on level of the film immediately previous and got something worse.
I can appreciate to a certain degree the wacky sense of humor G. Lucas has. Some stuff is kinda funny on a stupid kid kind of level, where other stuff is totally inept and unfunny like Jar Jar's Exquueze me, or stepping in poo.
I could seriously do without his turning villains (such as the droid troopers and the Trade federation guys) into silly jokes in the prequels. And his stuffing silly humor into the OT in the SEs was beyond unacceptable. The OOT had some silly humor but it was restrained. It only went so far. It didn't descend into cartoon stuff, so cartoon stuff should not have been stuffed into it later.
Btw, I thought of another thing re that Mustafar scene and in general in the last two prequels: Between the writing and how Hayden played him, Anakin comes off awfully damn dumb. You're left with the notion that Anakin turned to the dark side because he was too dumb to know better. This is not consistent with the Vader and Anakin we know from the OT.