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I hope you'll forgive me for not reading 127 pages of posts but did anyone mention that R2's head pops off his track a bit during the scene where Luke says, whines. "Oh we'll never get it out now.!" When they are on the shore watching the X-wing go glug, glug, glug.

I also thought that some Stormtropper reflections in C-3pos shell would be interesting during the scene where he wanders off and get's shot on Bespin.

Oh well, soon i will have my upgraded pc. At this time i will remain pc(less).

Edit: I love the new lightsaber and coloring of the bespin shot ady! Its me or Vader's saber is smaller now?

Also add a slight blue (10-20 %) blue in the cannon shot. It looks like gray

Anyways keep it up :D

-Angel

Monroville said:

Thanks for the kudos, Imp Fighter.. <:)

Ady: I understand that if anything is to be changed or added, it has to fit the logic of the situation (I can see why you would go back to 5 AT-ATs, being that Veers is essentially the "shock troop first wave" sent quickly to punch a hole for the main assault, which would come AFTER the shield generator was destroyed).   Regardless, everything is looking fantastic and it is just making it even harder to wait for the end result.  You know, it's almost like 1980 all over again waiting for EMPIRE to come out for the first time (and sad as it may be to say, I am looking forward to this more than WATCHMEN)

Imperial Fighter said:

Note:  Is it really the 'Avenger' that is the most foremost Stardestroyer here?  The foremost one (seen in this shot) is the one that gets disabled isn't it?   The 'Avenger' is another one that eventually chases after the Millennium Falcon, isn't it?  

I believe it is the Avenger, being that it is Captain Needa that is saying: "Good, our first catch of the day". 

Eh? That's not Needa who says that!

Imperial Fighter said:

Note:  Is it really the 'Avenger' that is the most foremost Stardestroyer here?  The foremost one (seen in this shot) is the one that gets disabled isn't it?   The 'Avenger' is another one that eventually chases after the Millennium Falcon, isn't it?  

I believe it is the Avenger, being that it is Captain Needa that is saying: "Good, our first catch of the day".  Man, what did Lucas have against poor Captain Needa?  First, he gets hit right in the face with an ion cannon blast (imagine him looking out the front window when that second blast hits the bridge square on), then he almost WRECKS a Star Destroyer trying to get the MF, and then he loses a head-on confrontation with a ship as big as the SD's nose (as in "tip of").

And to top off his illustrious career of losing, he gets dragged off the Executor bridge (and no doubt dumped out an airlock) after Vader force-chokes him to death for simply being himself.

And to think: he could have been a moisture farmer on Tatooine and lived a much more peaceful life... well, unless he had some droids the empire wanted...

 

Hello,

Cabbel: "Sir, Rebel ships are coming into our sector."

Captain Lennox: "Good. Our first catch of the day."

It is not Captain Needa that utter the following line: "Good, our first catch of the day"

It is in fact: Captain Xamuel Lennox and his Star Destoyer is called The Tyrant.

Captain Lennox was portrayed by the actor: John Dicks, but credited as: Imperial Officer.

The other person you see coming in on the left side informing him about the rebels is: Lieutenant Cabbel, he served as first officer aboard the Tyrant.

Cabbel was portrayed by Oliver Maguire.

& that has what to do with Adys cut exactly?

LOL good point ;-)

ImperialFighter said:

Ganamae -  thanks for clearing that up for Monroville.  I really liked his recent suggestions. 

So that one particular one is called the 'Tyrant' eh?  I didn't know that either. 

I guess that would kind of make sense, being that it is the Avenger chasing the Falcon... or is it?!?!

I would think that the SDs hit with the ion cannon would take a little while to recover.  But can't we just say it was Needa?  You know, because everything just went his way...

Next up: Captain Needa's best seller - "How to go from starship captain to corpse in less than 24 hours"

Bewy said:

I must say I agree with what Gorilla said, the idea of windows instead of balconies is interesting. And what's more I always found the rotoscoping of the characters quite ugly in this shot, but yet again the decision's all yours Ady :)

Well, the corridors in Bespin do wind quite a bit.  My thoughts are they round a corner and are on a balcony.  After this shot, they go down another winding corridor that masks the opening to the balcony in the background, hence no remaining visual cues of being outside.  Rationalization to be sure, but logically, it works.

In response to the Bespin balcony scene, could Lady Ferry or someone else post a link to that segment via a video link on Youtube?  I think it is not so much a matter of how that one shot looks per se, so much as how it fits with the rest of the sequence.

Llike Gorilla mentioned, if you see the balcony, but then when you see the same hallway but from a different perspective and there is NO balcony, or in the case where Leia and Co. go outside the door R2 opens and we do not see a balcony from the outside - as in on the side of the buidling that they just came out of- that would pose a problem.  Consistency is the key and making sure that everything "fits" from an architectural point of view; it is the same with the Carbonite chamber and how it fits with the rest of the scenery (regardless of what in particular is done).

Savage:  I understand your POV as well - that's how I thought of the carbonite chamber: it was inside the shaft wall and Luke went into the arm connecting the Fin Pod to the air shaft.  We don't have to see Luke or whoever go down every flight of steps or ladders to understand that a large distance is covered, but in circumstances where you literally go from one set to the other (or you can SEE bits of what looks like the previous set) you try to fit it all together in your mind after the 10th viewing or so.

I just watched it on my iPod, and I think with a little orange lighting on the proceeding two shots it could be just fine, as one is looking up at Chewie from R2's perspective as Chewie turns a corner and the next is from 3PO's perspective down, neither of which would show the balcony anyway.

Here are a few more points to consider:

(1) maybe Ady could add a "bit" of the balcony on the left-side of the building Leia and Co. leave from.  Sure you could assume the balcony was on the other side of the building or just out of sight, but that would definitely "cement" the balcony's place by referring to it as an actual part of the building's architecture other than just a thrown in shot.

(2) I like 005's idea of adding in some orangish lighting in the back left areas of the hallway to further insinuate the balcony's existence.

(3) Ady: would you consider showing ships leaving Cloud City or some similar activity outside the balcony shot, as well as some moving clouds?  Maybe even some of those red lights that most buildings have on top to keep airplanes from crashing into them or alarm lights and/or sirens in the distance to indicate the entire city is on alert and being evacuated.

This could also be applied during all of the outside escape shots:
(4) when Leia and Co. are first outside the building and the stormtroopers are shooting at them, in the distance you can see large groups of small to large ships leaving - not so much actually taking off of landing bays, but moving from behind buildings and moving up into the air.  Again, could add faint background sirens.

(5) when we see the Falcon take off, you could show hundreds of specs of light of all the escaping ships (ala something along the lines of the Battlestar Galactica fleet - maybe not so much AS enormous in scale, but something to show an entire city is evacuating and the Falcon is escaping either in the middle of said evacuation or at the tail end of it - hence we can see the vast majority of escapees already far in the distance.

visual references:
Space 1999: Wargames (when moonbase alpha is evacuated)
Deep Impact (I believe there is a scene where multiple helicopters are leaving a city)

(6) when Leia picks up Luke, possibly continue to show in the extreme distance the lights of the hundreds of Cloud City escapees, but maybe have the Falcon do the "immelman" manuveur because there is an escaping ship or two the Falcon has to "loop around" in order to head back to Cloud City.

(7) defintely consider upping the TIE fighter number to 8 or larger, since Vader would definitely not be pulling punches at this moment and would think that he would have them cornered.  The 4 TIES before and during the asteroid sequence could be explained as Vader "herding" them to a hiding place (ie. he was doing an alternate version of the same plan he concocted with Tarkin in ANH - make them think they escaped while making it look good), whereupon he would intercept them, capture them and then set a trap for Luke. 

Now that it is definite that they are all together, there would be entire squadrons of TIES from the Executor itself going full force to herd them directly to Vader.  Now since the TIEs would be there to "herd" them and not destroy them, it would explain a large number (be it 8 to 20) chasing the Falcon and still NOT destroying them. 

It could also help explain why the Falcon wasn't tractored in during that first "Executor hull shot" - so many fighters flying around the Falcon it caused trouble for the lock-on.  An officer would give an order to the TIE pilots to back off, then allowing for a lock-on, whereupon the Falcon makes the hyperspace jump.

While not necessary, it would be interesting to hear the officers frustration in the background of the Executor bridge shots (as if they are coming from the pit crew a good 10 to 15 feet away from Vader, who is in the foreground in all of the bridge shots), something along these lines:

"sorry sir, we're having a hard time locking on.  There's too may fighers around the target"
"(talking to TIE captain) TIE leader, you're too close.  Back off and we can make a lock with the tractor beam"
In fact this dialogue could happen directly before Piett goes to Vader and tells him "they will be in tractor beam range shortly".  You could even overlap the dialogue a little (time the last part of the second sentence to blend with Piett turning to face Vader) - being that it would be quieter and behind Piett, as in the above situation is what provokes Piett to say something to Vader, who has to be wondering why they haven't tractored them already.

Maybe even have multiple background chatter (that is a little fainter so we can't hear specific words, but still indicate a busy bridge) which then goes silent once the Falcon makes the jump.  IE. everyone on the bridge is intent on capturing the Falcon as Vader (be it out of fear of Vader or just pissed at the ineptness of the other SD captains - I would think these people would be a bit more elite serving on the Executor and would have something to prove) hence the bridge chatter to indicate the busy-ness of the crew to make "this" work - which then goes silent to further emphasis the "holy crap, we failed.  What is Vader going to do now?" ambiance.

In fact, if you like this idea, maybe this is how you could have a contest so to speak so 2 lucky people could get audio cameos.  Even if you limited it to those in England (being that  the Imperials do all seem to have a British accent) you could pick either some friends or winners to do said (or similar) dialogue as well as bridge background chatter.

Another idea in regards to the AT-AT heads and windows:

I can understand the "red" going away, due to the difficulty in creating the lighting effects inside the cockpit.  Would you consider adding "bluish-white" windows to the AT-ATs instead, so in the close-ups we can see into the windows and see the cockpit crew (ie the "inside window" shots in ALIEN, be it the bridge or Narcissus)?

In fact, if you considered this, you could keep the bluish view of the original 2004 SEs in regards to all of the "window shots looking out" when we are inside the AT-AT bridge (ie, the internal bridge shots are color corrected, but when we are behind the AT-AT drivers the stuff in the window view is the bluish tint, which would then match the bluish-white of the AT-AT windows on all of the outside head shots)

I suggest this because it would help to give the AT-ATs a sense of scale if we could actually see into the window and thus the model.  It is not so much the red color that is important as the idea of the AT-ATs having a viewable interior to help build the illusion that there are people inside.

Vaderios: is there any way you could do some mock-ups (maybe a mix of the what you created before: keeping the original color-corrected cockpit shot looking out at the fleeing rebels (without the red tint), but adding the extra display alterations and lighting) - both inside and outside the AT-AT head (you could take one of the previous AT-AT head shots and take the Veers shot and shrink it down to fit into the window slat).