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Moth3r said:
Troy said:
Moth3r said:

And - it's a harsh fact, I know - but that is precisely what you are owed. The ability to read a forum on the internet and send private messages does not automatically entitle you to a copy of the latest fan edit.

 

Ok what does entitle you to an edit I ask?

Do your own.

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Why do some people make whiny posts when they don't get what they want?

I get the impression you don't like me, have I done something to offened you?

I wasn't offended, just mildly annoyed. You started a thread in the Fan Edits and Preservation forum that is off-topic - the subject is nothing to do with fan edits or preservations. You just felt compelled to have a moan because you're not getting your own way.

You act surprised and hurt that no-one is willing to help you. And yet you accuse us of being selfish?

You also use words like "idiot" and "jackass" directed at ChainsawAsh, and you've got completely the wrong impression about the "spirit of the site".

Just because you are a mod dosen't mean you have to have ago at your members

True. But if I feel like "having a go", I will whether I'm a mod or not.

 

People have been banned for less!

AND I did start it in Off Topic but someone moved it! You're a mod can you not see when stuff is moved?

Where does it say you have to make an edit to be able to get an edit? That's hardly fair.

And as for ChainsawAsh those are HIS words not mine.

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DarkFather said:

It's on easy-to-find torrents. I just opened the .avi torrent through LimeWire, downloaded it, and then converted the file to .wmv, and watched it on my laptop.

Not sure if I'll burn it onto DVD anytime soon. Don't see any need to right now.

So Adywan's edit is more than readily available to the curious. It doesn't require any trading, postage, or anything like that. And heck, someone even posted it on YouTube.

This is about people who can't download due to limited net access or other reasons so have to rely on someone helping them out.

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Okay. Then hope I helped you out.

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Troy said:

Where does it say you have to make an edit to be able to get an edit? That's hardly fair.

Who said life is fair?

He meant that the only way to guarantee your ownership of an edit is to make it yourself, which is spot on.

There are two ways to obtain an edit...get it yourself, or rely on ther kindness of others.  And if you're gonna rely on kindness, then you have to be prepared for disappointment.

I've only had two or three instances of getting physical media from people here and for the record, those members were very generous and helpful.

 

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Sometimes if you want something you have to aggressively go after it, even when nobody else is willing to lift a finger for you.

"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."

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DarkFather said:

Sometimes if you want something you have to aggressively go after it, even when nobody else is willing to lift a finger for you.

This.

I once sat on a torrent for two months in order to get it completed and that was with broadband.  Hell, I remember a torrent on MySpleen that had been dead for nearly 6 months before a seeding request was fulfilled, allowing me and another person to complete it.

Back in the 90's, before I had broadband, I dialed into my ISP for a weekend in order to download OpenBSD (1.5 GB).  I stayed online the whole weekend (there was no way to do partial downloads back then).  Even if you have a bandwidth cap, you should still be able to get it if you give it enough time.  Download half your bandwidth cap each month and eventually you'll get the whole thing.  I know 8.5 gig is a lot and the waiting will be a pain, but you'd get it eventually.

 

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Agreed.  Patience is the key.  I got the DVD5 version of ANH:R one RapidShare file at a time - 47 files - because they had a 1 file/2 hour clock limit for free users at that time.  Every night, and as much time as I could spare on weekends, I was at the computer every 2 hours downloading another piece.  Took me almost 3 weeks, but I did it.

When the DVD9 came out, I figured the $7 for 48 hour access was worth it and got the whole thing in one evening.

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lordjedi said:
DarkFather said:

Sometimes if you want something you have to aggressively go after it, even when nobody else is willing to lift a finger for you.

This.

I once sat on a torrent for two months in order to get it completed and that was with broadband.  Hell, I remember a torrent on MySpleen that had been dead for nearly 6 months before a seeding request was fulfilled, allowing me and another person to complete it.

Back in the 90's, before I had broadband, I dialed into my ISP for a weekend in order to download OpenBSD (1.5 GB).  I stayed online the whole weekend (there was no way to do partial downloads back then).  Even if you have a bandwidth cap, you should still be able to get it if you give it enough time.  Download half your bandwidth cap each month and eventually you'll get the whole thing.  I know 8.5 gig is a lot and the waiting will be a pain, but you'd get it eventually.

 

 

Doesn't work in many situations.

I've sat on a torrent for over a year and got nothing because no one was seeding it anymore, no one was willing to re-seed it, and no one was willing to share it through other means.

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Download multiple torrents of the same thing. As long as whatever you're trying to download isn't too obscure, you'll get it eventually.

"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."

- DarthZorgon (YouTube)

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Actually this thread has kind of pissed me off.

In my time on this forum the people who have helped me out have been nothing short of fantastic whether I am in a postion to reciprocate or not.Let me cite this one example in particular.Back before the read-alongs site was set up with all the downloads on it I had a PC crash and lost all the MP3s of my sons' vintage Star Wars read-alongs and we dont have a tape or record player so couldn't do them together and he was very upset.So I put a request up here asking for help and not only did I get multiple responses but in the end,as I dont have a newsgroup account,the person who helped me allowed me access to their newsgroup account,sent me instructions on how to download from a newsgroup (as I am a torrents user and hadn't a clue) and I replaced ALL of the MP3s of my sons's books and got some we didnt have before which I then went and bought the books for and he was delighted.

Now THAT is what the people on this forum will do for each other and I wont have them being called greedy or selfish as it is just not right.

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To be fair, I've always been willing to help people out that ask in the forums.  I've even reseeded at times when I see people making requests.  What it sounds like is that Troy PMed certain people asking if they could help and they either didn't respond or they said no.  Something tells me that if he had asked in the forums like he did with this thread, he would've received overwhelming responses offering to send discs.

I've personally been amazed at the patience of some of the people here.  It once took me two weeks just to get to the post office in order to mail something to a member here and every time I sent an update about the situation, the response was always "No problem, take your time".  That was back when I actually had time to go to the post office ;)

Anyway, it seems like the situation has been resolved, so this thread can just be locked.

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I've had great help from these boards. vbangle sent me a great DVD-9 of SW:R with the label printed and everything when I couldn't get my damn computer to burn anything decent. I really appreciated it and wish I could pay it back, but my burner is apparentl a POS.

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bigbaddaddyvader said:

I wont have them being called greedy or selfish as it is just not right.

 

Glad you are here to take care of that,but exactly how are you going to do that?

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Actually this thread has kind of pissed me off.

In my time on this forum the people who have helped me out have been nothing short of fantastic whether I am in a postion to reciprocate or not.Let me cite this one example in particular.Back before the read-alongs site was set up with all the downloads on it I had a PC crash and lost all the MP3s of my sons' vintage Star Wars read-alongs and we dont have a tape or record player so couldn't do them together and he was very upset.So I put a request up here asking for help and not only did I get multiple responses but in the end,as I dont have a newsgroup account,the person who helped me allowed me access to their newsgroup account,sent me instructions on how to download from a newsgroup (as I am a torrents user and hadn't a clue) and I replaced ALL of the MP3s of my sons's books and got some we didnt have before which I then went and bought the books for and he was delighted.

Now THAT is what the people on this forum will do for each other and I wont have them being called greedy or selfish as it is just not right.

 

I'm glad you haven't enountered people being greedy and selfish on this forum, but others have. Fact.

"Now THAT is what the people on this forum will do for each other" ... then why haven't they in my case? So whether something works out for you is the deciding factor on everyone's experience? That's stupid, and would be akin to me saying that since nobody has ever helped me out with anything on this forum in many years of asking politely means that nobody on this forum has ever been helped. Great that you were helped. Don't let that inhibit your ability to understand that others have gotten shunned.

Hearing that some people have received friendly assistance from this forum is welcoming, though I have to experience it for myself. I had all but written off this place as an elitist snob-fest where people only care to share things with their same old inner-circle of friends.

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The pack dynamics on this forum aren't near as bad as most forums I've been to, actually. Most people here are remarkably reasonable, even to those they disagree with.

I wonder how you presented yourself when asking for SW:R.

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just for the record. I have emailed one or two of  you guys.  My name is Troy, so please don't get me mix up with his one. 

  I have made some request over the years and sometimes certain people may not have what I was looking for yet they were very helpful in pointing me in the direction of someone else that may have it. An it does take a little time.

 

  I am willing to help anyone I can. What is it your looking for?

 

  Troy

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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dark_jedi said:
bigbaddaddyvader said:

I wont have them being called greedy or selfish as it is just not right.

 

Glad you are here to take care of that,but exactly how are you going to do that?

 

I thought I had by citing just one example of how great my experience has been on this forum.

And yes this is only my experience but that is all I have to go by and have yet to find anyone on this forum who has been anything other than completely accomodating.I bear no "pack" allegiances here but have been on other forums where people ARE genuine pains in the ass and make it not worth bothering with and this forum has not been one of them in my time here.

From more established guys like Ady and Jambe to other folks who have helped me out I am rarely in a position to reciprocate as most of these guys dont want anything that I have as they rarely dont have it already but have always gone out of their way to help.

I mean my son was REALLY upset about losing those MP3s as it is an activity we do together a lot with those read-alongs and I get a real kick out of doing them with him as he just loves them and I hated him being upset about it.It was so cool to have people care enough about it to help.

That's why,in my experience,it is unfair to tarnish most folks here as greedy or selfish.Not saying there aren't some,people are like that,but the majority here are not.

 

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fffffff said:

I am willing to help anyone I can. What is it your looking for?

 

 Is this a queston directed at me? Because if it is, then if you have anything along the lines of the Highlander II edits or the Indiana Jones edits, Bond and some Terminator 3 and Matrix stuff.

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Troy said:
fffffff said:

I am willing to help anyone I can. What is it your looking for?

 

 Is this a queston directed at me? Because if it is, then if you have anything along the lines of the Highlander II edits or the Indiana Jones edits, Bond and some Terminator 3 and Matrix stuff.

You might get lucky here but you may find that posting on the other boards will get better results when it comes to non-Star Wars material.

 

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Bingowings said:
Troy said:
fffffff said:

I am willing to help anyone I can. What is it your looking for?

 

 Is this a queston directed at me? Because if it is, then if you have anything along the lines of the Highlander II edits or the Indiana Jones edits, Bond and some Terminator 3 and Matrix stuff.

You might get lucky here but you may find that posting on the other boards will get better results when it comes to non-Star Wars material.

 

Like I said to someone else I did put this in 'Off Topic' originally and it was moved.

As for asking in the relevent thread, I've tried. Someone else I think mentioned that a few posts back also and I never got chance to reply.

 

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Troy said:
fffffff said:

I am willing to help anyone I can. What is it your looking for?

 

 Is this a queston directed at me? Because if it is, then if you have anything along the lines of the Highlander II edits or the Indiana Jones edits, Bond and some Terminator 3 and Matrix stuff.

 

you surely are'nt asking for much LOL.

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I don't have any of those. sorry troy

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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dark_jedi said:
Troy said:
fffffff said:

I am willing to help anyone I can. What is it your looking for?

 

 Is this a queston directed at me? Because if it is, then if you have anything along the lines of the Highlander II edits or the Indiana Jones edits, Bond and some Terminator 3 and Matrix stuff.

 

you surely are'nt asking for much LOL.

 

Heheh.

Man, I haven't been here in a couple of years, but this place hasn't changed a bit! :)

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There is plenty of pifing and trading going on outside of these boards, but if you don't have any buddies to trade with whose fault is that?

I've been out the loop for a while mainly because of money but i have sent out plenty of discs and not charged for the blanks or the postage.

 Like Moth3r said they is a legal risk involved in sending these discs out.

 When i send a fanedit or preservation disc to someone, the unwritten rule of the community is that the dude i send it too does not put it up on ebay.

Of course there are those projects that only a few get copies of because the creator asks that the disc not be distributed beyond that closed group of people.

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