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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
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27-Feb-2009, 3:05 PM

Okay, HERE we go...

I got lost in the forums for a bit (I was wondering where Vaderios was on the ANH:R dvd-9 thread).



Anyways, I can go either way on the Dagobah stuff.  Having some more creatures (like the albino spider thing) in the background or even the foreground (Luke is resting on one of them as it begins to move away say during a shot or two) would be nice.  In regards to the planet, again either way would work:



(1) I really like the second Vaderios shot of the X-wing entering the cloud bank; anything to help increase the scale to show he's entering a planet's atmosphere.  The planet shot I could see some changes on, but not the "less-cloudy" version, as it would negate the reason for Luke's crash (why not head for the open areas and backtrack to the force-sensed area?  It's not like the X-wing has a limited fuel supply).  You can DEFINITELY have the clouds moving perceptively (to show a stormy, churning atmosphere), regardless of any additions.

(2) Maybe if one could add some multiple hurricanes in the Dagobah planet shots so the cloud cover isn't just static, but is covered in multiple storms of various strengths (maybe some even generated by Yoda as a means of force-covering his habitat).  This would allow for the completely cloud covered shots to remain, but actually give some menace to the planet too (maybe add some lightning flashes within the cloud cover). 

in fact, when we get that POV shot from the X-wing, maybe the expanse of the shot could be widened a bit, as we barely glimpse the forest below as the clouds break momentarily between various cloud banks Luke has to go through, as well as when Luke actually starts to hit the tree canopy, show the trees bending and curving out of his way.  Luke may take it as his X-wing shields are causing the trees to bend, when on hindsight it could be implied that Yoda was clearing a way for him while using a "force tractor beam" of sorts.

Maybe even show Luke's instruments going out by pulsing on and off inside the X-wing as he is crashing - ala the water world planet in the early STAR WARS comics with the skimmers (the pirates had a device that would cause any ship that got close to the planet to crash-land so they could pilfer it).  Yoda's force-mask could provide the same effect - that Luke crashed because Yoda's force power caused it.  That could also explain how Luke is able to return to Dagobah in JEDI and NOT crash, even though the planet would have the same troublesome atmosphere.


In regards to BESPIN:
maybe make it look more like a gas giant ala Jupiter or Yavin, with the cloud belts.  I understand the arguments that all 3 planets look damn near identical, but Bespin should be easier to "sex up" than Dagobah, which is established to be covered in fog, mist, clouds or storms.




(3) in regards to the shot of Luke and his sinking X-wing, you could show a path between the trees in the distance to show how Luke got there - maybe even show the trees bended and bowed, as if Yoda created a path for Luke to fly through and even crash land through - as in Yoda picked Luke up (or Ben told him he should expect a visitor) and right off the bat Luke was being tested.

- hmm, something I just noticed: in image #3 (the establishing x-wing crash site shot), we can see the path the x-wing took, as we are essentially looking from it.  Thus, the above shot of Luke trying to levitate his x-wing out of the muck should reflect what we see in image #3 (as in we are now 180° in image #3.)

Another idea is to play with the lighting, ie to copy the effect of clouds moving overhead:
a) how an object will grow darker then lighter as a cloud moves over it
b) faint paths of light (that pulse in and out to account for the moving cloud cover) in some of the more expansive swamp shots.

Some good examples would be the first 30 minutes of John Carpenter's THE FOG and the UFO discovery scene in JC's THE THING.  There are some shots where the light changes slightly to account for clouds moving through the sunlight.