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Is Adywan gonna do anything about the fact we can't see Luke lying on the ground anywhere when the AT-AT he threw the explosive in falls?
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adywan said:vaderios said:Ok fingers crossed...
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OMG where did you get the canvas from in hi res? I've been looking everywhere for something like this (without the overlayed snapshots of course :))?
I ve just paint it Ady... :)
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Dude!
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AWESOME! would having a moon in the background or a visible asteroid belt be too distracting?
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ImperialFighter, I was the one that mentioned the side guns not firing a while back. Ady didn't respond to my inquiry. I watched the hoth battle again soon afterwards and noticed that they did indeed fire, but they were hard to catch. I mentioned this to Ady if he could make them more noticeable, and again Ady didn't respond to my inquiry. Sadly, he couldn't find my posts. He asked me to repost my questions, but I didn't bother with it again. I figured someone would bring it up again eventually and Ady would then have a chance to respond to it. I'm glad you brought the topic back up, with pics. No offense to you Ady.
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The moon idea is good. It adds a character
Also i had an idea:
When the AT-AT fell wee see the rebel soldiers running and one say C'mon!
It will be cool if after the crash some snowtroopers had escaped of the fallen ATAT and heading towards to the rebels.
Just a brief scene. Also the snow speeder to shoot one of them just before it destroy the AT. Just like AOTC when the geonosian fighters killed a clone trooper...
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vaderios said:The moon idea is good. It adds a character
Also i had an idea:
When the AT-AT fell wee see the rebel soldiers running and one say C'mon!
It will be cool if after the crash some snowtroopers had escaped of the fallen ATAT and heading towards to the rebels.
Just a brief scene. Also the snow speeder to shoot one of them just before it destroy the AT. Just like AOTC when the geonosian fighters killed a clone trooper...
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That would be awesome if pulled off seamlessly.
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Sevb32 said:Is Adywan gonna do anything about the fact we can't see Luke lying on the ground anywhere when the AT-AT he threw the explosive in falls?
Heh, I actually meant to mention that he is in fact planning to do just that, in my recent AT-AT post, but forgot! That'll be a very cool addition.
vaderios - that's another great image you've given us. (the AT-AT cyclorama) Nice one.
AuggieBenDoggie - I'm pleased you're pleased. And I'm sure all of Adywan's re-done lasers will be great, whatever the amount or colouration he decides on eventually.
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AuggieBenDoggie said:ImperialFighter, I was the one that mentioned the side guns not firing a while back. Ady didn't respond to my inquiry. I watched the hoth battle again soon afterwards and noticed that they did indeed fire, but they were hard to catch. I mentioned this to Ady if he could make them more noticeable, and again Ady didn't respond to my inquiry. Sadly, he couldn't find my posts. He asked me to repost my questions, but I didn't bother with it again. I figured someone would bring it up again eventually and Ady would then have a chance to respond to it. I'm glad you brought the topic back up, with pics. No offense to you Ady.
again, i'm sorry i wasn't able to reply to your suggestions. I will be adding more laser fire coming from the side guns but i will be keeping them the same colour as the main lasers
vaderios said:The moon idea is good. It adds a character
Also i had an idea:
When the AT-AT fell wee see the rebel soldiers running and one say C'mon!
It will be cool if after the crash some snowtroopers had escaped of the fallen ATAT and heading towards to the rebels.
Just a brief scene. Also the snow speeder to shoot one of them just before it destroy the AT. Just like AOTC when the geonosian fighters killed a clone trooper...
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i love that idea . not sure how i would go about filming it though. unless anyone knows people who have snowtrooper costumes that can film them against white backgrounds. i have some ideas where added troopers would fit so getting the angles worked out is pretty easy.
Now i need to set aside a spare day to read through Imperialfighter's post. lol
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"Adywan" said:
I will be adding more laser fire coming from the side guns but I will be keeping them the same colour as the main lasers
I like them red as well. Wouldn't have them any other color. The problem is that they are really brief and quick when they do fire. It's like a don't blink or you could miss them kind of thing.
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They came from behind! or the Tower is targeting in the wrong side...
Notice that the sun is always behind the rebels. So this shot appears to be wrong placed (Wondering why...)
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super nice vaderios! its a shame in a way that ady has decided on not adding many more ATATs as most of the shots do seem to be of a central ATAT. if perhaps there were more in the background it would make the battle seem less like a group of isolated occurences and more of a melee.
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vaderios said:
They came from behind! or the Tower is targeting in the wrong side...
Notice that the sun is always behind the rebels. So this shot appears to be wrong placed (Wondering why...)
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Amazing stuff, all I can say.
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vaderios said:The moon idea is good. It adds a character
Can it be TWIN moons? That would be really good!
The Hoth planet shot below shows a big one and a smaller one....
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Adywan - about this 'Moons' thing...
Do you reckon that we should see any of them in any of the other Hoth planet shots shown in the above posts? It might be a very nice subtle addition.
I don't know what 'Sector' Luke escapes from here, but would these Moons be visible in the other views of the planet that we also see during the 'Stardestroyer blockade'?
(Having said that, you might be removing them from this shot for all I know!)
By the way, that recent AT-AT post shouldn't take too long to read, as it's just got a lot of example shots throughout. I think there's one or two relevant things in it though.
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This pic is completely wrong. Because the bridge isnt there and these windows are looking at the wrong side...
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That Vaderios stuff is awesome! Really adds to the traditionally boring and simple background!
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vaderios said:
This pic is completely wrong. Because the bridge isnt there and these windows are looking at the wrong side...
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You'll be glad to know that Adywan is certainly aware of this, as it's been well addressed in the past.
In fact vaderios, you might be interested in the rest of the 'mock-ups' that were nicely put together for me by doubleofive at the time, as a bit of fun speculation concerning the 'Stardestroyers Blockade' scene and beyond, as well as some of my comments about it -
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-TEASER-TRAILER-CLIPS-AVAILABLE-NOW/topic/9060/page/108
I'm really interested to see how Adywan's version of this sequence eventually pans out!
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GOD!
Sorry i couldnt resist! Its an other movie damn it !
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Here is a consolidation of HOTH suggestions as well as a few extra bits to consider (some of which have been already pointed out):
(1) consistency of backgrounds - like someone mentioned, this is going to be a hell of a lot harder than adding Yavin in the background, but still something to attempt. Also, is that laser crooked on the top AT-AT in the upper right?
(2) add squadrons of snowspeeders in the background doing strafing runs or fly-bys, not just for the visual aspect but also to account for the large group we first see when they come over the hill and fly over the trenches. Could also consider showing the AT-ATs shooting down more snowspeeders, as seen outside Luke's (or other snowspeeder pilot's) canopy as well as other shots.
(3) more laser fire from the AT-ATs - this may not need to be done, and even so it may be a matter of adding a few extra pulses or add more bolts coming from the side turrets (as mentioned by ImpFighter). Maybe if a stronger bass track could be added to the laser fire to give them more oomph in the sound mix.
(4) a lot of shots need more depth in the background elements, via Vaderios' last set of recreations.
(5) also need consistency of the ground elements too - in the falling AT-AT shot, the snow is broken. In the second shot, there is wind blowing across the snow.
(6) you could simply make the radar guns into smaller ion cannons (not make the dish-guns spherical, but just change the energy glow on the dish to blue) and change their laser bolts into the electrified blue bolts as seen in Vaderios' ion cannon shots a few pages ago. Maybe you could also show the effect of an impact where the ion blast seeped through the armor and a leg stops moving or begins to stutter or slow down - Vaderios: I was wondering if you could create a mock-up of this concept with the above pictures.
(7) also consider showing damage from the various ion/laser blasts from the rebel cannons, as well as show the small arms fire of the rebel soldiers firing at the AT-ATs.
(8) all damaged or destroyed AT-ATs need to be added in the background, as well as possibly the other 2 flanking AT-ATs seen in the prior "routing of the rebels" shot. Could also consider adding more flames and smoke to the destroyed laser turrets and maybe even bodies of rebel soldiers.
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I like Monroville's idea of the braking ice...
When the AT-AT falls it will be awesome if the ice will brake to show the mass of the Vehicle.
Also a camera shaking wouldnt be bad. I can think a good shaking to all foot close ups ot the walkers :)
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Monroville said:
(6) you could simply make the radar guns into smaller ion cannons (not make the dish-guns spherical, but just change the energy glow on the dish to blue) and change their laser bolts into the electrified blue bolts as seen in Vaderios' ion cannon shots a few pages ago. Maybe you could also show the effect of an impact where the ion blast seeped through the armor and a leg stops moving or begins to stutter or slow down - Vaderios: I was wondering if you could create a mock-up of this concept with the above pictures.
It actually crossed my mind at the time, to suggest these small weapon systems could be like 'shorter range' ION cannons, when I speculated on altering the colours of the laserbolts from the current 'pinkish'/'rainbow' ones, and that they could have a similar 'electrical' blueish look to vaderio's previous mock-up!
I guess I ended up focusing on colours that I thought would stand out more against the white/blue backgrounds of the AT-AT battle, but in hindsight I definately should have added that as an option anyway. (I guess the 'electrical' effect from these ones doesn't necessarily need to be the whitish-blue of the bigger 'long-range' one!)
I agree. It would indeed be neat to see a vaderios mock-up example of this using these particular shots, if he's willing. Ideally I'd love to see 4 comparison colours of the same version he could come up - 'greenish yellow', 'whitish orange' (seen above) , 'whitish yellow', and yes, his 'whitish blue' too. But I know that's a big ask. Even one would be nice to see though.
As far as this whole backgrounds/skies issue goes, it's not something that has ever troubled me personally. I can certainly see the appeal of it all having some kind of total consistency throughout, but I know the whole amazing sequence was just akin to being a tabletop or 2 covered in baking soda, with a piece of artwork behind it at the end of the day. I've always been more interested in additional touches being applied to the elements within these inconsistent surroundings, such as the AT-AT's themselves, and therefore Adywan's extra touches during the sequence will no doubt be just what I'd hoped for. If he somehow plans to convert the existing backgrounds into some sort of '3 Dimensional' version of vaderios recent 2D 'cyclorama', then I would be dumbstruck, as that is far and away beyond anything I'd expect him to attempt.
He's going to be able to ramp up this sequence even more than it is already, in plenty of other ways though, Gawd bless 'im.
vaderios - that is a fabulous concept with the 'falling AT-AT' there, but then the following shots of it might also need to be worked on to tie-in with it too. And liking your idea of some 'camera shakes' in some shots, as well. Loving your skills on these things. :)
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vaderios said:adywan said:vaderios said:Ok fingers crossed...
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OMG where did you get the canvas from in hi res? I've been looking everywhere for something like this (without the overlayed snapshots of course :))?
I ve just paint it Ady... :)
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wow, that is awesome work vaderios. beautiful canvas. would love to see that in hi res.
