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The slow down really helped that scene

Always good news here!

-Angel

i just realised that it is the HG-20 and not the 10 model that i tested out. the 10 doesn't film in 1920x1080p but 1440x1080 instead. i just rang up the shop that i tested it at and although their website lists the 10 model they assure me that its the 20 and they no longer stock the 10.

This is the lowest price i've been able to find for the Uk version

http://www.camerabox.co.uk/product.asp?ProductID=6388&gclid=CLGb6ZSf4ZgCFQHHGgodIGfYdQ

Its just over £100 more in the shop i tested it at but i'm still a couple of hundred quid off getting this baby.

I've been checking out some of the HD videos shot with this camera on youtube. This is definitely the camera to get.

Octorox said:

adywan said:

i just realised that it is the HG-20 and not the 10 model that i tested out. the 10 doesn't film in 1920x1080p but 1440x1080 instead. i just rang up the shop that i tested it at and although their website lists the 10 model they assure me that its the 20 and they no longer stock the 10.

This is the lowest price i've been able to find for the Uk version

http://www.camerabox.co.uk/product.asp?ProductID=6388&gclid=CLGb6ZSf4ZgCFQHHGgodIGfYdQ

Its just over £100 more in the shop i tested it at but i'm still a couple of hundred quid off getting this baby.

I've been checking out some of the HD videos shot with this camera on youtube. This is definitely the camera to get.

Here's a review that might be helpful

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-Vixia-HG20-Camcorder-Review-35510/Performance.htm

And I still have to recommend the tape-based HV30 of the hard drive based HG20. Hard Drives are a hassle to work with. Of you can even get the AVCHD footage into your editor render times will be excruciating. HDV is much more time tested. Also 1440x1080 vs. 1920x1080 doesn't really make much of a difference. One is anamorphic and one isn't. 24p/25p is important though

i was just reading that review then read what you wrote. spooky. lol

i prefer the hard drive cameras over any tape based ones. i do all my editing on the PC and transferring the footage from a hard drive camera is so much easier and faster than tape based ones. rendering times don't bother me as i've been working with Hd for a while so i'm use to that.

yeh i agree that the 24/25p feature is a very important factor with a camera i would be using to film the elements to fit in with the movie . many seem to do 30fps or 60fps so this feature on the canons is the selling point for me.

interestingly i saw some comparisons between the American 24p cine mode and the UK 25p cine mode and the results for the 25p in motion scenes were so much smoother whereas the 24p mode seemed jerky. having the 25p setting will enable me to change the framerate to 23.976 and the very slight slowdown will help with the feeling of weight and size so the PAL version is perfect for me. do you find that the cinemode on your ntsc version suffers with the jerky movement?

adywan said:

Octorox said:

I have a Canon HV30 (1080p), it even has a 24p mode. What do you need shot?

it would basically be all the new models and set pieces i'm having to make to replace certain shots. i am shocked just how much the UK is getting ripped off with prices after following those links. The canon would be a godsend because i just love canon cameras ( i own a 350d digital SLR & the quality is unbelievable) but at the prices we're getting charged it could never be a possibility

Is there any way just to order it from the american website and have it shipped to the UK?   Even with a 6% sales tax, it shouldn't come out to more than $636.00.  If you have someone over here you know you can trust, if Amazon.com doesn't ship to the Uk someone here could buy it at the cheaper price and then ship it to you.  I know that's a big risk, but $636 is a lot better than essentially $1009.85 (at least converted through xe.net)

Also, I take it that the US version is locked at the 24fps rate, or can it be altered between different frame rate settings?

ImperialFighter said:

Ziz -  I don't know if you missed it before, but Ady has previously mentioned that part of the appeal of doing this edit is the fact that he will enjoy making the stuff along the way, himself.  I've come across some shots of his work in the past that he's made, and hope that he will be able do his own stuff for this eventually, if possible.

Not doubting his abilities, just making suggestions on how to ease the workload and free up finances from one area of the project to another.

I don't know how Amazon.com is about shipping internationally, but I've ordered quite a bit from amazon.co.uk and they do indeed ship to the US.  My last order took four days to get over the pond and to the midwest!  And that was with standard shipping! :)

I would also assume amazon.com would have no way of adding VAT to your order, so you may save that way, too.

4 Days to go over the Atlantic on standard shipping?

.....

Then why the hell does it somtimes take WEEKS for things to move about INSIDE the US?

Lousy shipping...

Hey, long time no speak, AV. ;)

Yeah, shipping is funny sometimes. I've sent things within the country that took over a week, but then sent something out of the country and it took half the time, even with standard shipping. It's quite unpredictable sometimes.

rcb said:

i know this is out of topic here, but i was watching ESB earlier and i was wondering if

we could update the radars in echo base like ady did in ANHR with yavin base with the

deathstar deal. its somewat believable, but nothing moves on them and when han

finds leia with general reiken in the control room. when a blast comes the panales

wobbled back and forth like plastic or something. anyway to improve that.

How is that off topic?  They were discussing international shipping! :-P

The wobbly panels didn't bother me too much. That looks to be what would happen to them anyway. (sort of thin, untethered sheets of plastic/glass) Plus, the Hoth base looks even more slapped together than the one on Yavin. Heh.

One thing I'm sure Ady will do with those panels is add something like graphics to them so they don't look so lifeless. At least when they're not wobbling.

Monroville said:

Is there any way just to order it from the american website and have it shipped to the UK?   Even with a 6% sales tax, it shouldn't come out to more than $636.00.  If you have someone over here you know you can trust, if Amazon.com doesn't ship to the Uk someone here could buy it at the cheaper price and then ship it to you.  I know that's a big risk, but $636 is a lot better than essentially $1009.85 (at least converted through xe.net)

Also, I take it that the US version is locked at the 24fps rate, or can it be altered between different frame rate settings?

well i had been thinking about that but it really isn't viable for me to do it this way. for one it can be a nightmare to transfer the warranty from the US to the UK and if anything went wrong i would be stuck with a dead machine . many large companies refuse to do humour and American warranty in the UK. Then  there's the chance that i get heavily taxed by customs but the main thing is that the NTSC version suffers with the jerky footage when using the 24p mode. The PAL version does suffer with this problem. The thing is that the NTSC machine runs at 30p & 60i. For cinema mode it records at 60i then converts the footage inside the camera in 24p cinema mode which causes the duplicate frames or applied pulldown  because 60 is not divisible by 24. now the PAL machine does 25p cinema mode. the cameras main setting record at 25p & 50i. Because of this no extra frames are added so this results in smooth motion. It would be too much hassle trying to figure out a way to remove the duplicate frames from the NTSC model to be able to use the footage. Plus the voltage differences for the power supply is also a problem between our 2 countries.

The Pal machine purchased from a UK company is the only viable option.

I've got down to needing just slightly under £200 to get this machine now. i'm hoping i can get it pretty soon because the place i was going to purchase from have gone down from 6 left in stock to just 4 in less than a day. i guess it being much cheaper than anywhere else means that it isn't going to last at that price for much longer

in regards to me shipping out the workload for the models etc to save money it really doesn't cost me that much to build these things as i have most of the materials i need around the house anyway, plus i love making stuff anyway.

First thing i'm going to do when i get the camcorder is film the new wampa so you can all see what its like and post the first making of video. i'm using my old crappy camcorder to film the step by step building progress of the wampa puppet for this then the finished puppet will be filmed with the HD camcorder and you'll get to see the complete new scene

adywan said:

Monroville said:

Is there any way just to order it from the american website and have it shipped to the UK?   Even with a 6% sales tax, it shouldn't come out to more than $636.00.  If you have someone over here you know you can trust, if Amazon.com doesn't ship to the Uk someone here could buy it at the cheaper price and then ship it to you.  I know that's a big risk, but $636 is a lot better than essentially $1009.85 (at least converted through xe.net)

Also, I take it that the US version is locked at the 24fps rate, or can it be altered between different frame rate settings?

well i had been thinking about that but it really isn't viable for me to do it this way. for one it can be a nightmare to transfer the warranty from the US to the UK and if anything went wrong i would be stuck with a dead machine . many large companies refuse to do humour and American warranty in the UK. Then  there's the chance that i get heavily taxed by customs but the main thing is that the NTSC version suffers with the jerky footage when using the 24p mode. The PAL version does suffer with this problem. The thing is that the NTSC machine runs at 30p & 60i. For cinema mode it records at 60i then converts the footage inside the camera in 24p cinema mode which causes the duplicate frames or applied pulldown  because 60 is not divisible by 24. now the PAL machine does 25p cinema mode. the cameras main setting record at 25p & 50i. Because of this no extra frames are added so this results in smooth motion. It would be too much hassle trying to figure out a way to remove the duplicate frames from the NTSC model to be able to use the footage. Plus the voltage differences for the power supply is also a problem between our 2 countries.

The Pal machine purchased from a UK company is the only viable option.

I've got down to needing just slightly under £200 to get this machine now. i'm hoping i can get it pretty soon because the place i was going to purchase from have gone down from 6 left in stock to just 4 in less than a day. i guess it being much cheaper than anywhere else means that it isn't going to last at that price for much longer

in regards to me shipping out the workload for the models etc to save money it really doesn't cost me that much to build these things as i have most of the materials i need around the house anyway, plus i love making stuff anyway.

First thing i'm going to do when i get the camcorder is film the new wampa so you can all see what its like and post the first making of video. i'm using my old crappy camcorder to film the step by step building progress of the wampa puppet for this then the finished puppet will be filmed with the HD camcorder and you'll get to see the complete new scene

So do you edit in 25p and then stretch it to 29.98 for us Yanks?  The real question is do you work with the sped up audio when you're working on the audio side?  Just curious.

doubleofive said:

adywan said:

Monroville said:

Is there any way just to order it from the american website and have it shipped to the UK?   Even with a 6% sales tax, it shouldn't come out to more than $636.00.  If you have someone over here you know you can trust, if Amazon.com doesn't ship to the Uk someone here could buy it at the cheaper price and then ship it to you.  I know that's a big risk, but $636 is a lot better than essentially $1009.85 (at least converted through xe.net)

Also, I take it that the US version is locked at the 24fps rate, or can it be altered between different frame rate settings?

well i had been thinking about that but it really isn't viable for me to do it this way. for one it can be a nightmare to transfer the warranty from the US to the UK and if anything went wrong i would be stuck with a dead machine . many large companies refuse to do humour and American warranty in the UK. Then  there's the chance that i get heavily taxed by customs but the main thing is that the NTSC version suffers with the jerky footage when using the 24p mode. The PAL version does suffer with this problem. The thing is that the NTSC machine runs at 30p & 60i. For cinema mode it records at 60i then converts the footage inside the camera in 24p cinema mode which causes the duplicate frames or applied pulldown  because 60 is not divisible by 24. now the PAL machine does 25p cinema mode. the cameras main setting record at 25p & 50i. Because of this no extra frames are added so this results in smooth motion. It would be too much hassle trying to figure out a way to remove the duplicate frames from the NTSC model to be able to use the footage. Plus the voltage differences for the power supply is also a problem between our 2 countries.

The Pal machine purchased from a UK company is the only viable option.

I've got down to needing just slightly under £200 to get this machine now. i'm hoping i can get it pretty soon because the place i was going to purchase from have gone down from 6 left in stock to just 4 in less than a day. i guess it being much cheaper than anywhere else means that it isn't going to last at that price for much longer

in regards to me shipping out the workload for the models etc to save money it really doesn't cost me that much to build these things as i have most of the materials i need around the house anyway, plus i love making stuff anyway.

First thing i'm going to do when i get the camcorder is film the new wampa so you can all see what its like and post the first making of video. i'm using my old crappy camcorder to film the step by step building progress of the wampa puppet for this then the finished puppet will be filmed with the HD camcorder and you'll get to see the complete new scene

So do you edit in 25p and then stretch it to 29.98 for us Yanks?  The real question is do you work with the sped up audio when you're working on the audio side?  Just curious.

yes i edit in 25p then the video framerate is slowed down to 23.976 once the video side of things is complete. i then work on the audio after i have done this so everything is the correct pitch. then for the PAL version i can just speed up the audio once finished. I don't bother doing this with all the samples i post so many of the sound fx will always sound lower in pitch but for the finished version they would be correct

Insted of doing all that technical stuff...

 I say you get a simple Canon Digital Camera

  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Ixus-p1010137.jpg

and reshoot the series scene for scene useing Star Wars Action figures!

http://gallery.racoonfink.com/d/8782-1/Star+Wars+-+Uncle+Owen+and+Aunt+Beru+Figure.jpg

Now that would be a Fan edit!