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ChainsawAsh
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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4-Feb-2009, 9:33 PM

I figure I should add my two cents to the list:

Opening:

  1. Consider the more radical re-edits to the entire movie (RotJ: Fan-O-Matic) Please, that would be fantastic!
  2. Change the opening crawl to something more dramatic than "Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine in an attempt to rescue his friend Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba The Hutt" Again, please - ROTJ's crawl is, well, not very good.
  3. Add evidence of construction vehicles working on the Death Star, maybe even as just hints of movement around the incomplete side. I like the hints of movement idea, but not distractingly obvious
  4. Replace the shot of the Star Destroyer going overhead with a shot of the shuttle coming from the Executor. I would love to see this one.


Tatooine:

  1. Remove Boba Fett from the film. PLEASE DO THIS!  He has NO business being in ROTJ!  HE DOES NOTHING BUT DIE!
  2. Change Jawa eyes to match ANH. Never noticed there were Jawas in ROTJ.
  3. "Cantina"-ize Jabba's speech and expressions. Please.
  4. "Cantina"-ize other aliens in the Palace. Again, please.
  5. Make Bib Fortuna's tentacles move occasionally. Indifferent.
  6. Remove Greedo's dialog from the background noice in Jabba's Palace. Never noticed it, so I don't care.
  7. Remove 3PO's line of "Look, it's Captain Solo and he's still frozen in Carbonite!" Please!
  8. Cut down on Salacious Crumb's laughter. I'd like to see him removed entirely, as well.
  9. Cut/shorten the Droid Torture scene. Cut it.  What purpose would there be to "torture" a computer/robot?
  10. Remove Jedi Rocks. I say remove the entire "dance number."
  11. Remove Fett flirting with the dancer. Remove Fett completely!
  12. Restore Lapti Nek. Again, no dance number.
  13. Fix the flipped shots of Fett. This is easy when Fett ISN'T EVEN IN THE MOVIE.
  14. Change Boushh's dialog to be a more "realistic" language. Definitely needed.
  15. Mix up Jabba's minion's reaction to Boushh's thermal detenator so Fett isn't the only one who pulls out his gun. Or just cut Fett out completely.
  16. Cut Lando pulling his mask down after he hits his head on the low ceiling. That would certainly be a welcome change.
  17. Remove Lando hitting his head on the low ceiling. Does he?
  18. Remove the belch from the creature outside Jabba's Palace. Indifferent.
  19. Enhance the carbonite thawing process. That would be nice.
  20. Add Han's restraints when he is unfrozen. Always bugged me!
  21. Remove Han's scene with Chewie in the dungeons. Doesn't bother me too much.
  22. Remove Luke using Force Choke on the guards. I'm of the opinion that there are no "good" or "evil" Force abilities, it's how you use them.  So I don't care.
  23. Add Mara Jade (from the EU) to Jabba's Palace. I'd kind of like this, as the Thrawn trilogy is the only EU I like.
  24. Cut the Rancor Keeper's mourning. At least cut the dialogue of the guy "consoling" him.
  25. Remove SE Bantha herd. Pointless addition in the first place.
  26. Restore pre-SE Sarlacc. I say keep the new tentacles, but get rid of the God-awful beak.
  27. Add more menancing sounds to the SE Sarlacc. Once the beak's gone, the beak's sounds should be gone, so that kind of fixes itself, no?
  28. Fix jump cut as R2's panel comes open and the lightsaber pops up. Jump cut fixes are always welcome.
  29. Add the knob to the top of the emitter to the saber that comes out of R2. Never noticed.
  30. Shorten the amount of time Luke has his hand in the air waiting for his lightsaber. Please.
  31. "Restore" Luke's lightsaber to the preproduction blue. I'd kind of like to see that, but don't really care either way.
  32. Make it so Luke's lightsaber leaves slash marks on Jabba's crew. That would be kinda nice if it's done subtly.
  33. Remove/replace the scream as Fett spirals out of control. Well, if Fett's not in the movie, this isn't an issue.
  34. Make it so Han deliberately hits or shoots Fett using shots from later in the movie. Again, not an issue if Fett's not there.
  35. Make it so Luke beheads Fett. See above.
  36. Make it so Luke deflects a bolt at Fett which sets off his backpack. See above.
  37. Fix Fett's jetpack as they come out at the wrong angle currently. See above.
  38. Have Fett shoot at the Sarlacc as he falls into it. See above.
  39. Add a shot of Fett crawling/flying out of the Sarlacc. GOD no!
  40. Fix it so Luke actually kicks the guard while Fett flies out of control in the background. This shot won't be there if Fett's gone, right?  Non-issue.
  41. Restore Han's "Trust me" line. If he has to say anything, that's it.
  42. Make it so Luke doesn't have his hand straight up in the air to get shot. Yeah, that was always really stupid.
  43. Remove Luke's hand damage from before he gets shot. Never noticed.
  44. Attempt to restore the deleted Sandstorm scene and remove the ship-to-ship conversation. Don't really care, not to mention pretty much impossible.


Dagobah:

  1. "Cantina"-ize Yoda. Yes.
  2. Do something about Yoda's obvious rubber hand during his death scene. Yes.
  3. Tweak/cut Yoda's disappearance. Don't see the need to.
  4. Recolor the blue Force Ghosts to prevent confusion with blue holograms. Why?
  5. No Luke/Leia relation. YES!  PLEASE!  GET RID OF IT!


Rebel Fleet:

  1. Recut Rebel Briefing. The "Fan-O-Matic" version is pretty much perfect - use that!
  2. Shorten/cut the huggy Luke and Co. reunion ("I'm with you too" and on). See above.
  3. Different Shuttle Class for Tydyrium. Don't see why this is an issue, so I don't care.
  4. Replace/enhance matte painting of Rebel docking bay. YES!


Forest Moon of Endor:

  1. Add Endor so that the Forest Moon is actually a moon of something. If it's subtle, like the planet below the DS in ANH:R
  2. Change Ewoks to Wookiees. Ah, one can dream ...
  3. Complete removal of Ewoks. Again, one can dream ...
  4. "Cantina"-ize the Ewoks. Yeah.
  5. Add 3PO's line "I believe they are called... Ewoks" from the Radio Drama. Indifferent, leaning towards "no."
  6. Stabilize the speeder bikes during the chase. Yes!
  7. Adjust the scene so it looks like the Scout pushes Luke off of his speeder bike. Yeah, that makes more sense.
  8. Do something with Leia remembering her mother, her real mother. Or ... fix it in ROTS:R
  9. Change Vader's line of "Obi-wan once thought as you do" to "Your mother once thought as you do". That might be nice.
  10. Cut Teebo's Speeder Bike Adventure. YES!!!!
  11. Add more Imperial laser fire as the Ewoks attack. Yeah, sure.
  12. Add AT-AT to ground battle. Don't see the point.  So, no.
  13. Change AT-ST windows to match the windows in ESB. Don't care.
  14. Cut Chewie's Tarzan yell. YESSSSS!!!!!
  15. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is crushed between the two logs. Yes, or cut that part entirely.
  16. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is shot by Chewie's AT-ST. Yes.
  17. Remove Harrison Ford's reflection from safety glass as he runs from the bunker. Never noticed it.
  18. The shield generator explosion is huge and looks like it would probably wipe out everyone in the area. Agreed.


Death Star Attack:

  1. Rebel fighters crashing into the DS shield. Now THAT sounds like a good idea!
  2. More fighters overall (B-wings and A-wings especially). Eh, sounds good on paper, but might end up looking too "busy."
  3. Fix garbage spots in "one of the battle shots" where ships were not added. Umm ... huh?
  4. Just before Lando says "Yes, I said closer", some of the background ships don't tilt with the rest of the shot. So fix it, I assume?  That was worded strangely.
  5. Remove green matte boxes around ships. Yes!
  6. Remove/replace some of the copy/paste capital ships. Uh ... sure.
  7. Add more laser fire as the capital ships should be pounding on one another (a la the RotS opening). Again, be careful about making it too much like ROTS - that was just sensory overload.
  8. Add shots of Rebel capital ships attacking the surface of the DS (storyboard) Sure!
  9. Better end to the Executor. YES!!!
  10. Add shots of the gunner stations on the DS (from ANH). Unnecessary.
  11. Redub the Rebel pilot line: "Copy, Gold Leader". Why?
  12. Kill Lando, blow up the Falcon. Justify Han's feeling like he's "never going to see her again." It might be interesting, but I don't think there's enough footage to make it seem like anyone "feels" the loss after the battle (i.e., no grieving).
  13. Remove ring from DS explosion. YESSSS!!!!!


Death Star Interior - Luke/Vader Duel:

  1. Replace/enhance cardboard troopers during the Emperor's arrival. Please.
  2. Replace the Emperor's advisers with Nemoidians. NO!!!!!!!! NONONONONO!!!!!!!!!
  3. Fix the Emperor's "slugs". Yes!
  4. Move the exterior battle closer to the Throne Room window as it should be (a la the RotS opening). Be careful with this as well - don't distract from what's going on in the throne room.
  5. Remove/soften the more obvious lightsaber blade shadows. Yes!
  6. Fix large black matte that covers half the screen when Vader is kicked down the stars. Never noticed it, but if it's there fix it.
  7. Fix Vader's blade coming out the wrong end of his saber as he throws it to cut the catwalk. Yes!
  8. Remove Luke's lightsaber from Vader's hand while Luke is hiding. Yes!
  9. Edit Vader's dialog to hiding Luke to remove some cheesy lines. Don't know what's cheesy about it myself.
  10. Add Luke pulling his lightsaber out of Vader's hand after he is done hiding. If #8 is done, this isn't necessary, right?
  11. Add Sith eyes while Luke is beating Vader. NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO.  If that's in ROTJ:R, I don't know what I'd do.  REMOVE THEM IN THE PREQUELS ENTIRELY.  They're SO stupid.
  12. Cut some of Luke's angry hits on Vader while he's down. No.
  13. Add more Sith Lightning. I'd say just enhance it a bit.
  14. Tighten up Vader's hesitation to save Luke from the Emperor. No, it's fine the way it is.
  15. Add Qui Gon voiceover to Vader's hesitation to imply that Qui Gon passes his secrets of Jedi Ghosthood to Anakin. NONONO!  See #11!
  16. Add flashbacks to Vader's hesitation of Padme, his mother, Qui Gon, etc. NOOOO!  See #15/#11
  17. Fix saber on/off issues. Yes.
  18. Restore Sebastian Shaw's eyebrows to the unmasking scene. Nah, one 04 change I liked (probably the ONLY 04 change I liked).
  19. Fix the transition from Sebastian Shaw's face to the bald cap he wears. Yes.


Ending:

  1. Fix Luke's lazy eye as he looks at the funeral pyre. Never noticed it.
  2. Add Leia viewing the funeral pyre. I'd like that.
  3. Remove SE celebrations. Indifferent.
  4. Restore pre-2004 buildings to the background of the Coruscant celebration. Don't care.
  5. Remove the "Weesa free!" line from the Naboo celebration. YES!
  6. Restore Yub Nub. Indifferent.
  7. Restore Sebastian Shaw as Anakin's Force Ghost. YES!
  8. Attempt to morph Shaw and Christensen into the Anakin Force Ghost. NONONONONO!  (See #16/#15/#11 from above section)
  9. Add other Jedi from the prequels appearing next to Obi-wan, Yoda, and Anakin. See #8 above.