The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 13

Josh said:

umm.... the pope?

The droid factory looks good, but the rest kind of look like a frank miller film lol

So this is how Pope Benedict/Palpatine humour dies...with just not getting it.

I would darken a little; but really mostly just a desaturation could do a lot of good here. Most editors can handle that fairly easy.

The droid factory looks good, but the rest are WAY too dark.

vaderios said:

Master Qui-Gon said:

Yeah some look good, but the whole movie shouldn't be so dark. For example the jedi archives are way too dark.

 

Imagine like the prequels were cheap and the production team wanted to hide the missing set extentions or bad mattes :P

That is the idea

 

-Angel

yeah but the OT isn't even like that. It's actually very well lit and colorful. Especially in Adywan's revisited version.

Poor Il Papa....hahaha

Anyways, I think the driod factory looks amazing like that. The CG actaully looks real =O. The rest are just a bit to dark, but otherwise big improvement.

Octorox said:

yeah but the OT isn't even like that. It's actually very well lit and colorful. Especially in Adywan's revisited version.

Maybe, but nowhere near the oversaturated "colourfulness" of the PT.

I really like the colourchanges you made there Vaderios! I don't know if it's too dark as I haven't seen it in motion.

Now, who will make this happen? :P

I'm not trying to shoot you down Vaderios. Some of your shots were great, some were overdone. And as for the OT not being colorful

vaderios, could you have a crack at making some photoshoped stills of the pt stuff with bits disguising the sets? like the carbon chamber in esb having a smokescreen to hide the background? im sure the ot would have the huge sweeping backdrops the pt had if the technology was available, but as a wise man once said, 'less is more'

id like to see the pt as if it were made with technological inhibitions. personally i really like the desaturated PT, but wouldnt apply it to a whole film. the droid factory is definitly the best, and i like the emperors office being gray enstead of purple

Bingowings said:

So one possible alteration would be to start the film on Coruscant with Queen Amidala protesting about the blockade of her planet. She goes (with a Jedi escort and the Gungan Ambassador Jar-Jar) to effect a liberation of her planet but is hijacked on route and forced to land on Tatooine which has already fallen to the Federation. They meet up with Anakin, gain the parts they need, Anakin joins the Jedi hoping to liberate Tatooine at a later date (giving Anakin a noble intention for leaving his mother behind rather than just seeing the stars).

They break through the blockade and create a hasty alliance with the Gungans. The Gungan's attack the bulk of the droid army, The Jedi attempt to shut down the shields for Trade Federation command ship and encounter battle droids (which should rarely if ever speak and certainly should not be the comic relief goons as seen in the theatrical version...incidently they do sound good in German) and finally the Sith Lord they first encountered on Tatooine, the Naboo fighters clear the path for the Jedi and take on the full Federation fleet (not just one ship making it an more hopless fight) and the Queen and her troops storm the palace.

Love the idea of restructing the story like this - it always bugged me that the film has the main protagonists going from Naboo>Coruscant>Naboo - with no reinforcements.  So the trade federation have invaded, you've told the senate, they've actively tried to kill the 2 jedi ambassadors, but you're happy to let them go back with one unarmed cruiser and start a war.

I'm looking at ways to do this in my cut, but I'm struggling with justification/scenario to have them hijacked and forced to land on Tatooine.  I'm toying with the idea of having a republic/jedi escort up to a point, then have Maul attack them, damage the hyperdrive, then trigger the "not enough power to get to //naboo//" scene. The space combat scenes I'm confident enough doing anew spliced with the existing cruiser being damaged footage, but it's the dialogue and character scenes that will prove problematic.  I figure there's a good amount of generic 'escort cruiser' dialogue in the X-Wing series of games that I could grab, but having the Cruiser's crew communicate is the issue.

The alternative is have Maul attack the cruiser as they leave coruscant...but again, it's a tough sell to have them land on tatooine rather than just go back to the capital...

german battledroids! Bingowings is a genius!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wQfkJTn_EQs

ben_danger said:

german battledroids! Bingowings is a genius!

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wQfkJTn_EQs

Reports of my genius are greatly exaggerated.

In the actual German dub they sound just as daft as in the English language version (though Sidious is great and the Trade Federation sound a lot better).

I was thinking more along the lines of the German version in this level of Rebel Strike (if someone could sample it I would love to hear these in an edit).

Fast forward to around the 1:37 mark :

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zjwPsm8bLBo

Here's how to do some very basic color correction on AOTC. It makes it look quite a bit more like film although is not as drastic as Vaderios's color correction.

Using a three way color corrector tool (I used FCP's):

Turn the blacks down a notch (darker)

Turn the whites up a bit more than you turned the blacks down (lighter)

shift the whites a few notches towards yellow, don't touch the mids or blacks. I noticed the whites in video tend to lean towards blue while the whites in film don't

desaturate a few notches

viola! I'll post some pics later.

RoccondilRinon said:

rcb said:i came across somehting thats been bugging me for awhile. after luke lands on daghobah, and sets up camp. he says, "There's something familiar about this place." wat the heck does he mean? did he see it in a vision or did obi-wan take him there for a visit when he was a youngleen? i never figured that out. so can we lose that line?

 

I believe in a (very) early draft of the prequels, the Skywalker twins were supposed to be born on Dagobah. I don't have a particular problem with the line, though.

This is brought over from the ESB:R thread.

The moment I read this it made a lot of sense to me.

Rather than being dropped off in an escape pod Yoda is taken to Dagobah in the Tantive IV.

It lands on Dagobah and Padme has the twins there.

That way Yoda gets to his final destination, Luke's line gets an explanation and most of the birth scene can be kept as the hospital set matches much of the look of the Tantive.

ok, inspired by vaderios colour changes, ive had a go at recolouring the rots duel in a more natural lookng style. i tried to make it look like the film was made with more technical limitations, so ive effectively cropped out alot of the grand PT long shots, and tried to cut it shorter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZRdAg4b4Yg

theres no sound as i a currently adding sfx to it manually in order to remove the music, so we have the 'silent battle' again.

it is flawed in many little ways.:P

It's kind of hard to tell at that quality, maybe a few decent res screencaps would be helpful.

i'll see what i can do vaderios, if you post up the processes in photoshop you did, or redo them, but just tweaking RGB settings and BRIGHTNESS/CONTRAST, i will post sample clips if you want?