Octorox said:
Bingowings said:
Octorox said:
ChainsawAsh said:
Ah, you saw the prequels first - that explains why you're much, much, much more willing to preserve some of George's ideas than we are.
To me, the PT took everything I loved about the OT and made it pretty much irrelevent. The Jedi were NOTHING like they were depicted in the originals, the Republic wasn't a Republic, and the Clone Wars made no sense, among other problems (i.e. the whole movies feeling like the Endor and Tattooine scenes of ROTJ, a flawed film I'm working on fixing for my first fan edit).
Even though I saw the prequels first I still prefer the OT. There are a lot of things I look back and dislike about the PT. They were not great movies to be blunt. The OT (or at least ANH and ESB) deserves a special place in the history of American cinema and the PT does not. However, I believe the PT contained some smart ideas and even small moments of brilliance hidden under the thin veneer of crap. The PT was poorly executed but they were not devoid of worth and TPM and ROTS were both enjoyable. I would intend to preserve George's ideas that make sense and add to the "saga" and throw out those that don't. Some of the ideas mentioned in this thread don't sit well with me because they completely throw off the whole idea of the "saga" being about the fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker which I always thought needs to be the overarching message and should still be preserved. Again, the overarching story I have never seen as bad, it's all in the execution, how George develops these themes he's decided to focus on.
I agree with you about some of the ideas in PT being great and I think they should be kept, the idea of Palpatine working two sides of a war to his own ends is perfect and most of the way his character was handled was spot on, though we should ditch the hologram in a hood idea, Palpatine/Sidious is a dead give away to the audience. It would make much more sense if the Dark Side has eaten him alive by the time the prequels come around than have him disfigured in a force lightning accident (surely Luke got as much if not more exposed to that trick than Palps did but I didn't notice him getting all pruned up).
I also like the twist of having the Clones work with the Jedi but that would make sense for Clone War I , Clone War 2 should be the clones Vs the Jedi lead by the mysterious Darth Vader (hunting down and destroying them, including Anakin until he is captured by the Emperor).
Instead of Jengo, the Clones could be derived from the mysterious Sith pirates.
The Mandalorians could be hired by the Emperor to assist in the massacre using their tracking skills.
I don't think the word "Sith" should ever be uttered in the PT. It's so vaugley defined in the Star Wars Universe and I think it would confuse anyone who saw the PT and thinks sith automatically equals evil jedi. I think the clones could be just formed from mandalorian hosts (various, explaining the different height stormtroopers) which where picked for the strength and ability. If we want to give Boba a backstory he could essentially be a "glitched" clone who develops an unusual cunning and will of his own and breaks away from the Republic after training, becomes a bounty hunter and aids the Seperatists/Confederacy/Bad guys/whatever for a quick buck. We still would never see Boba as a kid, we would never se his "father" and we would never see him "unmasked" but we would still give the popular character a backstory and potray him with respect to his portrayal in ESB.
Darth Vader, Dark Lord Of The Sith is such an entrenched part of the Star Wars universe that not addressing it is utterly bonkers, it's like not doing the Clone Wars at all, everyone has heard the term and it deserves a better explanation than a couple of bad guys with red light sabres.
Palpatine and Coruscant aren't mentioned by name until the PT and Boba Fett (in one line) and Anakin only get a name check in ROTJ, but they are major parts of Star Wars lore.
The same goes for Dark Lord Of The Sith, if he's Dark Lord of it we need to know who or what it is and why he's it's/their Dark Lord.
It doesn't make much sense having the Emperor also a Sith Lord as it turns the Empire into a rather small closed shop.
I like the idea of there being thousands of ambitious creatures like Vader, trying to climb up the greasy pole only Vader is the best.
So Darth Vader Dark Lord Of The Sith shouldn't be too special, he's a warlord of a particular group but with a reputation which strikes fear in people (like Blackbeard: The Pirate King).
The idea of Sith Pirates comes from an earlier draught script : "Led by a young Padawan named Darklighter, who had succumbed to the temptations of the dark side, the evil Sith pirates became the Emperor's bodyguards and hunted down the remaining Jedi." (Star Wars.com) and the term was passed down through books and magazines released during the OT era.
Vader clearly isn't Boba Fett's master so the Mandalorians should remain as a race of skilled bounty hunters with a strict honour code (in keeping with Feudal Japanese feel of much of the OT).
I can't imagine them volunteering to be the template for a clone army it would be like prostitution.
Should they be forced into being cloned I could imagine them helping to fight against the force that committed such a dishonourable violation (Clone War One perhaps?).
As for the Emperor himself couldn't he just look that way in ROTJ because he's an alien who just looks that way anyway?
It makes a heck of a lot more sense than having him look like a human and figure out a way he can turn that way at the last minute.