I've never played any of the Metal Gear Solid games before, so I bought the Essential Collection at Gamestop a few days ago (it includes MGS1, MGS2:Substance, and MGS3:Subsistence, minues the second disc), and I have to say it's one of the best gaming purposes I've made in a long time. I've been playing through the first one over the past few days and I'm loving it. I think MGS is another game that falls into the category that you guys are talking about; I kept hearing people say that it was a short game, and yet I've racked up about 6 hours of play time and I haven't even made it to Disc 2 yet.