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Taolar
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Superman by Taolar (Formally: Son of Jorel) WORKPRINT AVAILABLE
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22-Dec-2008, 3:06 PM
bkev said:Not as familiar as most are with these movies (only saw 2's Donner Cut and the original movie quite a few years ago), but I downloaded.  Looking forward to watching!  Anyone got a list of changes?

 

I haven't sat down to detail all my changes, and I don't know that I will.  There's has been a lot done, undone, and re-done over the last 2 1/2 years.  I probably couldn't make a complete list right now.

But briefly, here's my own rules regarding this edit:

  1. Keep the end result as professional as possible.  (This is the most important rule, and means if there was a scene or clip of dialog that I wanted to cut, but couldn't do it without being painfully obvious, I kept it in.  This resulted in a lot of cutting, then months later replacing of footage and trying to rework it, because I realized that even though I didn't like the scene, it was a necessary plot point.  This is also why some of the Donner Cut scenes (which I preferred story-wise, but not performance/quality-wise) didn't make it in, and why some of the below rules weren't strictly followed.)
  2. Create darker tone (reduce the camp as much as possible, reduce the humor in the middle of serious scenes, remove slapstick almost completely, etc.)
  3. Reduce the redundant/unnessessary dialog.
  4. Remove all references to new powers.  (This mostly pertains to the second film: Telekinesis, Cellophane Superman Symbol, Teleportation and Illusionary Supermen, Super Memory Erasing Kiss)
  5. Remove as much of the unrealistic/silly as possible (turning back time by rotating the Earth, changing Mt Rushmore, etc.)
  6. Re-edit every action scene to feel slightly more modern.
  7. Fix FX when feasible.
  8. Remove much of the ending of S1.
  9. To service #8, I had to make Ms. T's entire relationship with Lex in S1 seem more distant/spiteful.
  10. Have the missile from S1 be what destroys the Phantom Zone.  (Thus removing the beginning of S2, AND the whole jail sequence with Lex and escape (by hot air balloon?!?), since now only a day has passed between the two movies).
  11. Use only footage from official Superman sources, except those created by me.
  12. Repair continuity errors when feasible.  (This turned into a bear, because the more you watch the movies, the more you notice.  And some of my changes may have created their own continuity errors, so at one point I decided if I kept it up, I would never finish this.  This isn't Superman: Revisited. (as much as I respect Adywan and what he does, I ain't no Adywan))
  13. Keep total runtime to under 3 hours.  (This mostly has to do with my inability to enjoy extra long movies.  And this results in me having to cut scenes, that while not necessary to the plot, were some of my favorite scenes in the movies.)
  14. Use highest quality sources available.  (Most FX scenes were created using the HD sources, most music is from Ultimate Superman Soundtrack, not mp3s)
  15. Focus more on the relationship between Jorel and Kalel.  (Jorel does not knowingly lie to Kalel now)

If there's enough interest, then I'll release a commentary track on the DVD and will try to point out everything I did.  But until that DVD is done I don't have the interest in putting an exhaustive list together. 

I just did a quick scan of part 1, and there are between 130 and 200 cuts.  With the longest uncut segment from either movie being about 9 minutes.

Hope that answers some of your questions.

-T