negative1 said:Vaderisnothayden said:Oh quit trying to hit me over the head for not liking your sacred show.
maybe if you actually HAD a valid opinion about the ACTUAL SHOW people would actually
listen or read what you had to say (but since you haven't actually seen it, not liking something
you haven't seen is kind of preemptive)
When there's been no decent Star Wars screen fiction since 1983 and Lucas clearly has some severely mistaken ideas about Star Wars, then the quality is not going to suddenly rush in in some kid-aimed animated show with awful animation set in the prequels universe. Not going to happen.
right..... and there's nothing to look forward to in the live action show, books, games, comics,
or anything else 'star wars' related... you can just keep re-watching the OOT over and over
again..
As for the claim that the show could be OT-ish, that's even less plausible then the idea that it might be quality. And I'm not going to change my opinion just because you tell me to. Maybe someday I'll see this show, but until that time I'll reserve the right to bet that it's crap. I can't see it now because they don't show it where I live. So maybe you should get used to me having an opinion you don't like.
so you think that people that HAVE actually watched the show don't know what we're talking
about? since you don't know about the actual references to the OT (because you haven't
bothered watching them), that's right tell us something we don't know, when you yourself
admit you don't even know what its about...
and then you claim 'someday' you 'might' watch the show? how convenient.
look it up on youtube, download the torrents, download it directly from newsgroups/rapidshare,
but don't complain that you can't find it, or it you can't get it... that's a pretty weak excuse,
maybe you don't want to watch it , and find out you were wrong..
And btw, if I ever suffer through episodes of this show and find it is indeed crap then you'll be hearing an awful big I told you so.
there you go presuming again, we'll if you're going to have low expectations, or make up
your mind ahead of time, what's the point? why not lie, and just say its horrible, and spare
yourself the trouble of actually watching it?
yeah, and if you're wrong about the show, and actually like parts of it (i almost fainted
when i read skyjedi, and adywan found some positive things about the series)..
i'm pretty sure you wouldn't admit, or even bother posting that you were wrong.........................
last time i checked , there was already a post about the 'clone wars' movie,
which is where all your posts should be, maybe you post your thoughts over
there, until you actually do watch the show..
later
-1
maybe if you actually HAD a valid opinion about the ACTUAL SHOW people would actually listen or read what you had to say (but since you haven't actually seen it, not liking something you haven't seen is kind of preemptive)
I think I've quite a bit to go on to give me an idea what this thing might be like. Obviously you guys disagree. But I think I'm entitled to my opinion on what's enough to go on to make a vague ballpark general estimate of something's probable quality.
right..... and there's nothing to look forward to in the live action show, books, games, comics, or anything else 'star wars' related... you can just keep re-watching the OOT over and over again..
Basically yeah. Which is fine by me. The OOT is great. I don't pay a lot of attention to the EU's books and comics, that stuff isn't real to me, though I've sampled some in the past (and I have a nostalgia soft spot for the old Marvel comics). But I was talking about screen fiction and I very much doubt we'll ever see any good new Star Wars screen fiction in this era. I'll check out the live action series when I get a chance, but I expect it'll probably piss me off.
so you think that people that HAVE actually watched the show don't know what we're talking about?
I think their idea of OT-ish is probably different from my idea of OT-ish and I think their idea of totally different from the movie is diffferent from my idea of totally different from the movie. And I'm betting there's a good chance they're giving it some slack for being a kids' animated show, which I wouldn't do.
since you don't know about the actual references to the OT (because you haven't bothered watching them),
I couldn't give damn about references to the OT. References to the OT wouldn't count for me as being OT-ish or quality. I don't want references to the OT, I want the spirit of the OT, and I think Lucas is a million miles from that nowadays and couldn't possibly make anything with that now. And I can see that some people might feel it's got something in common with the spirit of the OT, but I bet my standards for that are stricter and what counts as in common with the OT for them wouldn't count as in common with the OT for me.
that's right tell us something we don't know, when you yourself admit you don't even know what its about...
A lot of people write stuff about what it's about. I can read.
and then you claim 'someday' you 'might' watch the show? how convenient. look it up on youtube, download the torrents, download it directly from newsgroups/rapidshare, but don't complain that you can't find it, or it you can't get it... that's a pretty weak excuse,
No it's not a "pretty weak excuse". It's the facts. Nobody ever told me I could see it on youtube. If you've got a youtube link show me it. As for downloading, that's generally illegal and I don't do it.
maybe you don't want to watch it , and find out you were wrong..
You guys tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and shouldn't be talking about what I don't know about. Well you're doing that here. You're so far wrong what's going on in my head and you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Now that people have made such a fuss about this thing I'd be happy to see some of it to fill in the blanks in my knowledge. And it's not like I expect it to be actually good. I am very firmly confident that quality Star Wars screen fiction is an all-odds-against impossibility from Lucas now.
there you go presuming again, we'll if you're going to have low expectations, or make up your mind ahead of time, what's the point? why not lie, and just say its horrible, and spare yourself the trouble of actually watching it?
Actually if you have low expectations for something and it turns out better than your expectations then you're likely to think better of it than you would if you went in with higher expectations. Basic psychology. And I've made my estimate of the show's quality and I'll stick by that until I get better info, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't give it a chance if I saw it. I couldn't get an accurate impression of it from seeing it if I didn't give it a chance while seeing it. And I believe in having accurate impressions. And maybe you would feel it's ok to lie about seeing something you hadn't seen, but I don't work that way. Just as I don't give "pretty weak excuses" for not seeing something when I have genuine reasons.
yeah, and if you're wrong about the show, and actually like parts of it (i almost fainted when i read skyjedi, and adywan found some positive things about the series).. i'm pretty sure you wouldn't admit, or even bother posting that you were wrong.........................
Yet again you seem to assume I'm a pretty dishonest guy, from zero knowledge of me. You guys get all riled up about me judging a show from only seeing the pilot and reading about it and seeing photos and knowing the creator's other work, but I think it's a lot worse to prejudge somebody as dishonest based on zero knowledge of their honesty. If I like enough in it to be worth commenting on I might well feel like saying so. Assuming I didn't get the idea I was just going to get more shit over it. But I find it highly unlikely that I'd find much in it to like.
last time i checked , there was already a post about the 'clone wars' movie, which is where all your posts should be, maybe you post your thoughts over there, until you actually do watch the show..
Precisely what business of yours is it to tell people where to post? Are you a mod? Funny, I hadn't heard that you were. The movie is part of the show, so discussion of the movie fits in here.
later
You know, it's really annoying the way you sign off "later". It just has a sort of "fuck you" tone to it.
Now if you really want me to watch it, link me to youtube's showings of it.