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skyjedi2005
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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13-Dec-2008, 6:32 PM

When JJ Left Alias and Lost in other hands the quality of the shows suffered.  Their first seasons were brilliant.

Whats to say he won't pull the same crap on star trek direct the first movie and bounce to whatever next thing he is interested in?

His biggest failure as far as i am concerned is zero fidelity to any franchise he has gotten involved in, i.e. he has too many irons in the fire.

Star Trek needs someone to take it by the reigns and steer it to new levels of greatness not just make a single teen blockbuster flick and then move onto the next thing.

His problem is the very opposite of a George Lucas who stays doing Star Wars forever.

I am of course pissed off at what he is doing to star trek, nothing it seems can last forever and nothing is sacred and the ruin of all these franchises can be tied back to Lucas or Spielberg

Star Wars ruined, Indiana Jones ruined, Transformers ruined, and now star trek.

Manny Coto was bringing Enterprise in the right direction when it became a victim of the ousting of Rick Berman and got cancelled.

You would think trekkies finally got what they wanted berman was canned but the people replacing him have even less respect for Roddenberry and Trek canon history and only see a franchise to exploit for profit.

At least Lucas was able to hold onto the rights for star wars, Roddenberrys estate has no say whatsoever in how jj changes trek to fill the coffers of the banker types at Paramount.

Making movies is a business, only the bottom line matters, the shareholders have to be placated, and whatever.  I understand at the same time they no longer care for the fans, are trying to make a new fan base and give the finger to the existing one just like Lucas did with the prequels.

If they cared the enterprise would keep with design continuity of Matt Jeffries and Andrew Probert.  Instead they got Ryan Church who worked on the star wars prequels and has nothing to do with trek, to create the abomination we now have to supposedly accept.

The Kirk, Spock and Bones are an alternate/mirror universe and not our Kirk, Spock and Bones we loved from tos and films 1-6. Since this is clearly a new universe we have no emotional attachment to these characters.  Now James Kirk is a Hayden  rebellious teen angst type . See not my star trek.

I don't believe Orci's Bullshit that the their souls supposedly are the same though their histories and everything we know about them have changed for a stupid 90210 trek jj verse.  We all know it is our experiences that have made us who we are, the same as trek's fictional characters.

I may have embraced the new batman but it was not like we had any choice after what shusucker had done to the franchise, The new bond is not my bond and neither is this Trek my Trek.  Just like the prequels and special editions are not my star wars.

I never had a connection to Batman i never read the comic, had disliked every film until batman begins.  Connery and Brosnan are the only bonds i will accept as canon.  The only true trek to me is tos, and films 1-6, and the oot of star wars is the only valid and true canon.

To me William Shatner is James Tiberious Kirk, in the same way Harrison Ford is Han Solo.  It would be Like lucas doing a recast with a Teen Han Solo without ford and changing everything we know about the star wars universe to make it all hip and modern for the teen audience.  The millenium falcon would be some flashy computerized high tech ship and not the bucket of bolts we know.

Without the Farragut, Tarsus IV.  Would James Kirk even be the James Kirk we know, my answer is no.  He said in star trek V he needed his pain, that it made him who he was.

The trailer with the new kirk was painfully too much like another movie jj's buddy tom cruise starred in, Top Gun.  I have a feeling that if cruise was not to old JJ would have cast him as Kirk.

I refuse to pay ten dollars for a cgi garbage, sci fi top gun ripoff.

 Buckle Up he says on the trailer.  How about walks out of theater in disgust and demands full refund.

I'll eat my words if in some bizarre twist of fate this movie is actually good and the trailer is supposed to throw us off by thinking it is garbage.

Remember Cloverfield's trailer was a trick, and the movie was a pig in a poke.  We have to wait til 2009 to see if the same.