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Post #339402

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skyjedi2005
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The Clone Wars (2008 animated tv series) - a general discussion thread
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Date created
12-Dec-2008, 10:01 PM

One of the reasons he hates it is the anime Like style.  I for one love anime. and find this show despite a couple of decent episodes to be garbage. Also mainstream anime, or at least 90% of it is commercial profit making garbage and without redeeming value.  People for instance think anime and think Pokemon, when Ghost in the Shell and Akira are awesome pieces of science fiction.

For instance i loved the manga a new hope comic that won an Eisner award.  If they could do that that would have been awesome.  Or even Luke, Han and Leia in the new republic genddy style.  This clone wars is stupid because i don't like any of the characters from the prequels.  And the series has the same Lucas cringe inducing dialogue. The genndy series was truer to the oot spirit despite the rediculous mace windu taking out all those droids scene.  It was better than the 3 prequels.  Genddy made better star wars than Lucas, which is unforgivable to the bearded one.  The last person who had done so was Irvin Kershner who was not invited back to direct Return of the Jedi.

Of course Lucas is not going to be able to randomly Outsource animation to someplace in Singapore who are new at the animation thing at the new Lucas animation studio, and produce the same quality as Pixar who have more than a decade of sucessfully producing animated features.

Lucas is no Miyazaki, or disney, and Filoni is no Lasseter.

In some alternate Universe where Lucas never sold off pixar or destroyed star wars they would be making animated star wars that would be worlds better than this clone wars stuff.

Animation is able to do what you cannot do in live action film so why not push the envelope a little?  I had no problem with the genddy series because its aims were different than the live action film series.  You can get away with stuff in cgi animation that you could never do with live actors and cgi because it all looks so phony.

The animation on Clone Wars started out very poor but they have improved a bit as time has gone on taking notes on the crticisms of the wooden movement, or static characters without emotion.  Still the dialogue leaves a lot to be desired.  I for one cannot Believe that any of the dark horse comics writers participated in the writing of this crap.  As the republic comics were well written. 

Still the yoda episode was Kinda cool, and so was the Artoo episode and you are missing out if you don't at least give it a try.  Sure it is a dumb kiddy show but at least attempts to make star wars fun again.  Something that was sorely lacking in the prequels.  The music, production design, and voice acting are all decent.  It is the writing that needs a little work.   Still for a show that is low budget and churns out an episode every week i think the animators deserve a little slack.

Lucas shortchanged these guys creative endevors by releasing a proof of concept pilot used to sell the series to the networks as a big screen movie.  That had fail written all over it as people expected something more like episodes 1-6 and not some dumb poorly animated pre viz attempt at a television series.  Whose animation had not yet been perfected and the storylines just sucked.   The lighsaber duels were decent.  And the banter between student and master was unberably bad as bad as the dialogue between padme and anakin in clones and sith.

Lucas needs to get rid of the yes men, and needs creative consultants who are honest and tell him something is a bad idea. The prequels would have  been such better films with collaboration from other writers and directors, and people that helped Lucas shape his ideas into something that did not betray the legacy of the original trilogy. Instead he had colleagues who no longer felt like they could be honest because Lucas had achieved "godhood status" and Rick McCallum.

Lucas deserves some Slack for the Phantom Menace as he had not directed a film in 16 years.  But he has zero excuse for Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith's failings. Revenge could have been the best of the trilogy and Lucas comeback star wars performance.  But he failed miserably because the whole saga hinged on him being able to make anakin's turn to evil believable. Instead you got an unbeliablly pathetic excuse for a performance that was like a third rate comic book movie that nuked the fridge.

Maybe it is a Joke for a Director like Lucas who is not a character director and a bad actor like hayden to pull off drama based on Milton's Paradise Lost, or Sophocles Oedipus The King.  I mean you first need an actor and a director who can pull that off.  Someone Like Christopher Nolan could have done it justice.  Though i don't know who he would have cast as Anakin, hopefully not Christian Bale,lol.