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Post #339200

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Hunter6
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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Date created
11-Dec-2008, 7:24 AM
C3PX said:

Hunter, that was a good post. I agree with you. Just as we can go through history and look at vehical designs and see how they changes over the ages and for what reasons they changed, style, practicality, rising gas prices, shortage of material due to war, or needing to use cheaper material due to economic decline. It makes since for Starships to go through these phases as well. In First Contact we see the Pheonix has a design very similar to TOS ships. the Pheonix represented bringing mankind out of the ashes of its old civilization, which had at this point all but been destroyed by constant warring, and bring it into a new age of science, technology, and discovery. Basically we are looking at a technological boom coming out of a post-apoctaliptic Earth. I think that simple, practical, submarinesque design of the original is a good representation of this. And as the series goes on, we see the designs changing styles, from the TOS design, to what we see in the STMP refit, to the Enterprise A to the Excelsior style Enterpise B, eventually getting to the more bulky designs of the Entrprise C and D as seen in TNG, to the more sleek and stylish Voyager and Enterprise E. I think ST Enterprise kind of messed this up a bit, since the NX-10 (that what it was called right?) is much closer to the style of the Voyager and the Enterprise E, in my opinion, and yet it is suppose to fit between the Pheonix and the original Enterprise.

I do, however, like how Enterprise used the exact old designs for everything, instead of trying to modernize them in any way. That episode was a lot of fun to watch.

 

Thank you.

also I too think ST: ENT kind of messed this up a bit, but just a little. The thing is I think the insides of the NX-01 was more the mess up then the outside. The outside of the NX-01 was basically a disk with warp nacelles which more basic then the NCC-1701. The adding of things like the Warp core output transfer junctions, the warp field governor and Thrusters  were little changes to make NX-01's starship systems to make more in-line with the basic trek-tech that TMP and other post-TOS had. These little changes are key for a warp drive starship to work in post-TOS trek-tech. These are things that TOS' NCC-1701 needs added to it to fit basic trek-tech canon of today. I wish the new movie's Enterprise was the classic NCC-1701 with just a Warp core output transfer junctions, a warp field governor and Thrusters and with lite Aztec hull designs added to the ship then the Ugly non-canon design of Abrams' i-prise. I like the outer design of the NX-01 and the only thing I hate about it is the dumb TNG-blue lights on the Deflector dish and warp nacelles. The Pheonix and TOS' NCC-1701 did not had blue lights on the Deflector dish or warp nacelles, So, why would NX-01 have blue lights on the Deflector dish or warp nacelles? The problem I have with the insides of the NX-01 are the same things that are wrote on this site:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/22nd-cent-tech.htm

Things like the NX-01 having a transporter or Phaser-like weapons, but all of that is just nitpicking and none of the things on ST: ENT really messed up star trek canon (unlike Abrams' star trek). I just think it would have been better if the NX-01 was more basic like having rocket thrusters for impluse, no transporter, atomic weapons which is more true trek canon (see: TOS EP- Balance of Terror), more manual things and more of a Steampunk-like feel to the ship.