lordjedi said:C3PX said:I most definitely have to side with lj on this whole thing. Can hardly believe the retardedness of a lot of what I am reading. He said nothing wrong, but for some reason you are really pounding him into the ground and being a dick. I just don't get it.
You're not the only one. I'm starting to wonder how we went from talking about how we don't care about what happened in Mumbai (even though I stated that I do care, just don't see a reason to talk about it) to attacks on me and my reactions to those incidents.
Seriously TipTup, what the hell? I know it would be foolish to drop everything and run to India to help them, which is why I don't do it. It would be foolish and dangerous.
For my part, this has been nothing more than a purely intellectual discussion of personal ethics (from the very start). For your part, however, this has been a curiously defensive, tangential, and long-winded treatise designed to purely avoid my simple question. You have been the one making this so long and so complex, lj. I've gone out of my way to try and simplify your worthless crap and bring you back to my basic, starting question (the one I think you keep purposely misunderstanding). I challenge you or C3PX to prove that my replies have been longer, or more off topic than yours have been.
At every point in this discussion I have gone out of my way to include myself as a person that possibly should have cared more about the attacks in Mumbai, so I don't know why the hell you have the idea that this is somehow about you (or why the hell C3PX thinks it's about you either). Are either of you actually trying to read what I've been asking here? :)
I'm not even certain you're doing or did anything wrong, lordjedi. (I don't even know, exactly, what you or I could have done better.) I'm simply asking you an ethical question for the sake of my own curiousity. To the degree you keep avoiding my actual question, I'm continuing to re-pose it you because I find you to be a person that fascinates me. If that offends you then don't worry about me. I'll be okay if you decide not to respond to what I'm asking. However, to the degree you keep talking to me, I'll respond so long as I see a reason of my own to do so. (Oh, and C3PX, if you're offended by my questioning of lordjedi, you don't have to talk to me either.)
To be as clear as possible, my question is this: all things being equal, you seriously don't believe there is any tiny, infinitesimal action (as a real, ordinary human being living and ordinary human life) that could have possibly been better on your part with respect to the Mumbai attack (say if you were acting on totally pure motives within a totally pure value system)?
All C3PX originally mentioned was that it's odd that we don't talk about important news when it involves a foreign part of our world. I personally think, at the very least, I probably could have paid more attention to it all. Beyond that, I don't really know what I could have done better, but I'm fairly certain that if I were a pure human being (and not such a "dick") I would probably be living a very different life right now. I probably would be living a life that would react to the recent attacks in a very different way. If you feel your every, tiny action was absolutely perfect, on the other hand, I suppose that's a perfectly acceptable answer to my question (even if I don't logically understand it). In the end I'm only curious to know how you would answer what I simply asked. Thank you.