Rhikter said:Originally posted by Monroville:
"...who you think would have force sensed Luke in the first movie..."
I think that Vader was so consumed by his rage and determination to finally kill Obi-Wan that he was blinded/ignored everything else going on around him until after the job was done and he'd basked in his victory for a while. "This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Kenobi. It will soon see the end of the rebellion."
Uhh, Darth was over Tatooine in the beginning of the movie! Even if he couldn't force sense either Luke nor Obi-Wan due to distance (maybe his long distance Force bill wasn't paid yet or he didn't have any "bars"), he WAS able to force sense Obi on the Death Star (being that he was on the MF just a few yards away). Granted, he may not have recognized it until later, but if he could pick up Obi he could pick up Luke, especially since EMPIRE and JEDI amped the Force sense thing to 100,000 mile+ distances!
Let's not also forget that Darth Vader kinda GREW UP on Tatooine, built C3P0 and knew what R2-D2 looked like among other things. I mean, if we are to pretend that the Prequels exist as part of the real STAR WARS universe (which I don't), then NONE of this makes sense: would Ben be so stupid as to hide Vader's kid on the same planet Vader grew up on?! And in the same exact TOWN?!? And again, if Vader could pick up Luke from a shield generator image a few light years away, I think he could pick him up a few FEET away on the MF after it arrived on the Death Star I, not to mention when he was SHOOTING AT HIS OWN KID in the Death Star trench!
And let's not even talk about Vader NOT knowing Leia was his daughter when he was interrogating her with a MIND PROBE! Sure, she could have hidden her knowledge of the Death Star tape whereabouts, but everything else would have been an open book, especially with his super sith force powers.
Besides, Vader wasn't consumed by rage or determination or anything. When he said the whole "day long remembered" it was just a speech. He wasn't doing a Nuremburg Hitler thing nor a Gary Oldman THE PROFESSIONAL thing either. THAT would be consumed by rage and determination,
as seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k08A0aVs8OI
and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6H4xOUrs
notice the animated movement and extremely loud voices - hence, consumed.