Hmm, that is a good point with the boredom thing Tip. I was considering the number of teen suicides in the US, my discovery yesterday, and my old studies of teens with suicidal tendancies from my counceling courses in University, and kind of bunched them together. Perhaps there is very little connection between them. Almost more disturbing that kids who are relatively healthy socially should be into such things. To me it is more understandable that a youth suffering from some social issues should find such videos amusing. But somehow the boredom thing makes sense. I can think of all the sorts of things I did as a youth out of boredom that were not computer related, back when internet connections were quite uncommon. With ease of access to this kind of stuff, I can understand these sorts of things replacing the crap I used to do. Though I would describe the crap I used to do has a healthy curiousty, and this stuff as extremely unsettling.