C3PX said:Just because there is a picture of Lucas and JJ having a chat, and because ILM is doing the effect (as they do for countless other films) we now have all these crazy over the top conspiracy theories of how JJ worships Lucas and is asking for his advice on how to destroy this as Lucas destroyed Star Wars.
If this movie bombs, it is by no fault or success of Lucas'. It is being made by a TV show creator who is successful at bringing together casts of great looking young actors to pull in audiences. His last movie was an unwatchable take on the giant monster movie genre, it while it was successful in creating hype, and getting people interested in the looks of the cast, it pulled plenty of people into the theaters, but how many people came out saying that it was an awesome movie? Not that many from what I can tell. I have yet to hear one of my friends say that they really liked it, the best I have heard was, "It was kind of cool I guess, wouldn't really be interested in seeing it again though". I have a feeling this new ST flick will be kind of like that. Why do we feel the need to blame Lucas for this? I can already imagine the next series of rants, "Lucas raped my childhood by destroying Stars Wars, Indiana Jones, and now Star Trek!" Grrr, I give you the first two, but please don't stretch this Lucas hatred to expand to every single cinematic disappointment you experience from now till the day you die.
I did NOT say Lucas is a blame for The New Star Trek.
I said "JJ Abrams and his writers have their heads high up in Lucas' butt" which is a fact. JJ Abrams is not a fan of Star Trek, but is a fan of Lucas.
you have JJ Abrams, his writers and Chris Pine saying Kirk is like Indiana Jones and Han Solo. You have JJ Abrams, his writers and Chris Pine saying that Pine played kirk like Harrison Ford. You have JJ Abrams and his writers all the time saying How they are adding Star Wars into this Star Trek Film and so on....
These are not conspiracy theories, but are the facts.
I do not blame Lucas for The New Star Trek.
I blame Jeffrey Jacob Abrams and his crew for this the New Star Trek, period.
Lucas did not force his ways on JJ Abrams and his crew.
The only thing which Lucas and JJ Abrams are the same in them is they both seem to not listen to or care about the fans.
I see JJ Abrams as worst then Lucas.
Lucas Destroyed his own creations, but Abrams is Destroying other people's creations.
The interesting paradox of this whole thing, is that JJ is aiming this sucker at the "Star Trek, eww, nerd alert!" crowd, and not at the nerds who are its loyal base. Kind of an interesting experiment actually. I think for the next phase of this experiment, they should take Barbie, a franchise aimed at the 9 years and under girl crowd, and make it into a feature film aimed at 18 - 34 year old males.
Great and Funny Point.
Well the last thing JJ Abrams called his experiment was Cloverfield. I just hope people see this star trek movie as bad before they go see it, unlike Cloverfield. The sad thing is that some Star Trek fans will go see this S**** because they are full of fear that if they to do not, Star Trek will be no more. For me, if this type of movie is the future of star trek, then it is better to let it die. The thing is that Star Trek fans have to know that Star Trek is Forever and if this movie bombs, Star Trek itself will not.