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skyjedi2005
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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30-Nov-2008, 12:13 PM

Every overladen Cgi blockbuster can be tied back to Lucas in some way so i don't understand your question.  JJ is taking inspiration from the prequels and is using the same ILM crew that wroked on the prequels you don't see a connection.  He met with Spielberg and Lucas and nobody that had anything to do with Trek. 

If you can watch that trailer and not see that they are going for the same feel as the star wars prequels then you must be blind.  Even the Kirk as a rebel james dean type character is a throwback to Hayden as Anakin.

Has nothing to do with the real canon history of the character as i have read the novels and seen the films Roddenberry sanctioned as canon.

Robert April was Captain of The USS constitution and George Kirk was his first officer.  He did not serve under some no name Cuban captain on some Stupid ship called the Kelvan.    That is JJ idea.  Kirk and Pike were not on the enterprise as the same time try decades seperate.

This movie is a joke to those who loved the old series and the old movies 1-6.  It can in no way be a prequel since nothing matches up.  Unless they use some lame time travel excuse which would be totally orci by the way.  These guys wrote the horrible dialogue for Transformers.  They wrote and directed MI3 which felt like a tv episode and not a movie.  JJ is a tv director not a movie director.  The studio was not at all happy with MI3 but blamed Cruise instead of JJ.  They also blamed Cruise for the failure of War of the Worlds and not Spielberg.  Paramount is a very bizarre studio.  They allowed Spielberg to Direct Indiana Jones IV after the debacle that was War of the Worlds and knowing what Lucas did to the prequels they allowed him to produce and write the story.

Now they made up with Cruise and want a blockbuster MI4 in the vein of MI2 to star Cruise and possibly be directed by him.  If he does not direct he will be the producer.

The paramount suits don't care if this new movie is garbage and not real Star Trek as they never cared for Gene's creation anyway, they only care if it makes money and can be sold to the lowest common demoninator and the teen audience.  So they tell JJ to put in a bunch of sex and explosions and Throw hundreds of millions of dollars at this piece of trash that will be all cgi and rubbish and not true at all to Roddenberrys vision.

Does not surprise me back in the day they dumpstered all the original effects elements of the original series so when they wanted an HD version of the show the effects had to be recreated.  They even sold the props and physical ship models Like the beautiful model that was used on the motion picture.  So they could create an abomination inside a computer by Ryan Church.

When the story should be Science Based Science Fiction that makes you wonder Trek at its best was cerebral not lowbrow action.  It should go forward in time Later than Nemesis not backwards the same stupidity of the star wars prequels.  It should be about contempory issues like the new Galactica addressed and be about Going Boldly where no one has gone before.  It should be darker and more serious in tone to reflect current post 911 world we live in.  The original series and next generation have been done to death already.

Why not the 27th century adventures of an entirely new Enterprise , where the federation is nearing collapse and there are dark forces out there they have to fight.   Too Militaristic and far from Roddenberry's vision but at least you could have some unpredictable ness that would lead to drama.

I guess at Least in spirit JJ's trek is true to Roddenberrys Hopeful Future.  I not sure that is the trek people want right now they tried that already with enterprise.

Are positive hopeful stories even wanted anymore.  The dark Knight was so huge because it was dark and in vogue with our times.

So the casting is all wrong and so is the look of the enterprise.  But this film is clearly not being made for me or my generation.  It is being made for the young people who loved the prequels of star wars and hated the originals.  Still Star Trek is science fiction and star wars is not science fiction.  It is space fantasy they have nothing to do with one another and JJ mixing the universes is like comparing apples to oranges or mixing oil with water.