skyjedi2005 said:
he fact that Simon Pegg is playing scotty pretty much says they are marketing this film to non star trek fans. i don't think James Doohan and immediately see Simon Pegg playing Scotty.

Who the fuck is Simon Pegg anyways? and what does he have to do with Star Trek. James Doohan Scotty was a loved character on an old tv series i grew up with.

And before that, it looks like he was quite an accomplished actor. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001150/ To bad nobody, including you, knew him for anything else.

This other guy is from some crap horror comedy and is the new Jar Jar Binks in Trek 2009.

Looks like Pegg is an accomplished actor as well. He was even in Band of Brothers. He probably played such a different role that it's no wonder I don't remember seeing him.

I am a fan of Alias and Lost but i don't think Abrams is the guy for this movie.

Yes, we all know this by now. You manage to repeat it in every post.

Also the cgi is way too over the top and just looks wrong to me. I like the old ILM stuff all this computer stuff is wonky and rather silly and expensive looking. Looks like a cartoon.

Old ILM stuff? When was the last Star Trek they did that didn't have any CG?

I don't think of the guys who worked on the prequels and would not know design if it bit them on the ass. They design movies like videogames.

No, Lucas designs movies like video games. Why do you keep blaming all these guys for the failings of one director? Yeah, the movie might not turn out that good. I don't really have high hopes for it, but that's because of its targeted audience, not because some guys who worked on the Star Wars prequels are working on this. The prequels are bad because Lucas has lost whatever magic he once had. Stop tearing apart the entire industry because of one bad director. Were they suppose to do the exact opposite of what Lucas wanted? They'd have gotten fired in that case.

Yes movies are a fictional Universe of fictional characters and places and objects that don't really exist. But traditional efects at this point still look more real. Maybe within the next ten years digital chracters will look more lifelike, digital objects and similated reality and enviroments. Right now they have hit a ceiling on what they are able to do.

And 10 years from now, people like you will still be complaining about CG, whether you know it's there or not. I'm sure you were making the same complaints 10 years ago. Why don't you point out the scenes in the trailer that look incredibly fake to you so we can all take a look at them? From what I've seen, from a visual effects perspective, the trailer looks great.

It really comes down to what you prefer. I prefer hand drawn animation as an art over computer animation. I am still a fan of computer animation and cgi to a lesser extent than the traditional way of doing things. A compromise of the 2 is the best at this point.

And here's the crux of the argument. You prefer the traditional way, so you automatically see CG as bad. This isn't going to change in 10 years. You're still going to prefer the traditional way.

Eventually they will no longer need to go shoot anywhere and no longer need actors except for performance or voice over as 100% of a movie could be made on a computer. They would only need to capture an actors likeness digitally, and get elements photographicaly that they then would manipulate in the computer.

And I would hope that everyone here completely disagrees with this. I would much rather see real outdoor locations than to have them totally generated in the computer.

They tried shooting digital background Plates for Indiana Jones IV for instance instead of Going on Location to shoot it with the actors and it looked awfully fake.

Again you keep bringing Lucas into the discussion. Can you name any other movies that had bad, heavy CGI that didn't have Lucas' involvment?

At what point in the history of making movies did the movie become a showcase for Special effects, and the story and characters were forgotten.

May 19th, 1999.

And the rest is just a rant on how the effects in the prequels are horrible, so all CG is horrible. Give it a rest sky.