Too weird. The ripped files are fine when played in any software dvd player; 2:01 right where it should be. PGC sees the files in 3_0 as being 2:01, but ALWAYS demuxes the streams missing a number of chapters in the same place, resulting in 1:42. Vobedit does weird things too, so that doesn't look like a solution. This might sound idiotic, but what about dragging all the VOBs into MPEG Video Wizard DVD and rendering a single file from there? Or running them through a rebuild in DVDShrink? They show as being 2:01 when assembled, and since it's not an encoder, it shouldn't do anything other than a stream copy. Does it have a tendancy to drop frames when joining VOBS like that which would crop up later?