Hunter6 said:
The double throw grappling hook scene:
Here is a little help, The double throw grappling hook scene was shown on channel 4 (kron/NBC) in bay area, back in the mid-80's in their TV version at 9:00pm.
Again, where is your proof of this? You know the exact channel and hour it was shown on, but not the exact date or year, where is your evidence of this? If some alternative cuts of this film really did exist, I'd be very interested in knowing real facts and details about them, but all that exists out there is hearsay. You can't trust half of what people say on the internet, they will make up all sorts of crap telling in the most sincere manner for no reason at all.
Stuff like this comes about from one guy posting something along the lines of, "I am 100% that the first time I saw Star Wars it had a scene where Luke misses the first time he throws the grappling hook. When I bought the VHS that scene was missing! Perhaps this was on an alternative TV version, since the first time I saw Star Wars was when it aired as the 9:00 movie on channel four here in the bay area. That was back sometime in the mid eighties." and another poster responds something along the lines of, "Yeah, I could have sworn I had seen a scene where Luke missed the first time too, I also live in the bay area, maybe I am remembering it from the TV broadcast." and a third poster after having read the previous too posters suddenly recollects, "You know what, now that you mention it, Luke missing sounds familiar, I also lived in the bay area in the 80s, maybe I happened to see that broadcast, probably that is why it sounds familiar to me."
Suddenly by a few people assuming and speculating we have determined that an extended version must have indeed been broadcast in this area, now it has become a fact. Maybe I am wrong, I'd love for you to prove me wrong Hunter, but so far all you are doing is spitting "hard facts" as matter-of-factly as possible, while failing to show any sources or evidence to the fact that they are facts. If you could kindly indulge us by providing some proof beyond "Adywan is disproving himself, ROTFLMAO!!!"
Missing the first time when throwing a grappling hook is a bit of a cliche, it has happened so many times in films, that we have almost come to expect any character throwing a grappling hook to miss the first time. It would not be hard to convince any casual viewer of the film that Luke missed the first time. If you could convince people that Luke missed the first time he threw the hook on every theatrical print, but that it was removed for the VHS, you'd have just about everyone who originally saw it in the theaters agreeing that they too seem to remember having seen it. Day old memories can be hard enough to trust, 20 - 30 year old memories even more so. Until even the slightest proof can be provided, this debate could go on forever.