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Kurgan
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
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20-Nov-2008, 3:34 AM
DarthStewie said:

If not, I'm gonna tweak that part just the way I've always wanted it.  I really don't care if I "release" my edits or not. These are for me as Ady's are for him.  This simple concept is forgotten all too often :::cough cough Kurgan cough cough::: That's just the nature of all this.  None of it belongs to us and as long as credit is given then I don't know of any fan editor that would mind that their edit is tweaked to someone else's liking.


Nice try... if you are making it "just for you" DON'T BLOODY ADVERTISE IT AND DON'T BLOODY RELEASE IT!

Simple as that... I don't see why people think they can make their work public, and then shield it from criticism...

If we can criticize the actual films, we can darn well criticize somebody's "fan edit" of it, thank you very much! ;)

 

Ziz said:

"In universe" - in the OT, the only people using sabers are two old men who haven't done it in 20 years who are way past their prime and a kid who's running more on instinct than training.  In the PT, you've got young, strong Jedis at the peak of their careers and physical fitness, so naturally they're going to be more energetic and creative in their fight styles.

 

 

Trouble with that explanation is (and yes, I realize Lucas himself said basically that in 2004) that Count Dooku is older than Obi-Wan and therefore even more past his prime, and he fights in the energetic and flippy style of everyone else in the Prequels.

You can also take someone like Qui Gon Jinn, whose character is supposed to be almost as old as Obi-Wan's character in ANH, and he is hardly "way past his prime."

And let's face it, we're given no indication that the Jedi/Sith in the Prequels are used to having saber duels every week either... it appears to be something brand new, thanks to the joining of this conflict (remember, the Sith were thought extinct for the last thousand years, that's long enough ago for even Yoda not to have been around to see it). And if the Sith are in secret, training against nobody but themselves (if they train at all), how are they so good?


Episode II, III point out (and Episode III makes it crystal clear) that the Jedi are NOT operated at peak efficiency in the Prequel trilogy (despite what Lucas told us he wanted to show all those years leading up to Episode I, with "Jedi in their prime"). He gave us this "Shroud of the Dark Side" that is interfering with their powers, that Yoda finally admits to in Episode III. Now I figured this was just a plot device to explain why Palpatine can sit a few feet away from a room full of Jedi Masters and not give himself away as a Sith Lord, but the Episode III novel says that Obi-Wan was able to "clear the cobwebs" for a brief bit, as he had felt the Force cloudy and diminished ever since his youth. So I guess we haven't YET seen Jedi in their prime, in the G-canon.

Finally, we see Padawans who are plenty capable of fighting well, at least until overwhelmed by plot devices (see Lucas' son Jett's cameo in Ep III). His character was younger than Luke was in ESB (and though I hate to mention it, since it's EU, there's also little Asoka from "The Clone Wars").