STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 164

If any of you touch 3PO I will cut you!  *Produces Butterfly Knife*

j/k

when was the last time any of us went 3 years without watching empire? ;)

topdawg193 said:

Reading some pages back, there was a little talk about maybe bringing the spinning star field back when the Falcon goes into hyperspace. As it was removed from ANH:R, for the sake of keeping visual consistency I would suggest removing it for ESB:R also. It does not feature in ROTJ, so it would be visually continuous if it was omitted in ESB:R as well. I'm aware that there were some complaints over its removal in ANH:R, but it never really bothered me at all (in fact, I didn't even realise it was gone when I first watched ANH:R until I read about it on these forums). Adywan gave good reason for its removal, and as it was removed there, it'd be as well to remove it from ESB for the Revisited edit.

Just putting in my two pennies worth.

Not to be an ass, but NO! NO, NO, NO and again NO!!!

I STILL do not know why Ady took that out - the spinning star field when the MF (or any ship) went into hyperspace was one of the coolest things in the theatre.  It gave you the same feeling when walking in one of those tunnels in a funhouse with the circular moving walls that screwed with your equilibrium and was really effective.  The MF just jumping away with no spinning star field looked pretty damn silly and no where near as dramatic, especially considering how many OTHER shots are using the moving star field to enhance the dramatic element of what is on screen (the MF/TIE escape from the DS & the entire Last Battle)

In fact, I love the edit the previous editor made with the Hoth opening sequence, which takes care of the repeat scene and adds in that vertigo effect.

seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw6mHFccFgo

(Ady: even if you don't change anything else, PLEASE consider copying what this guy did from 0:22 to 0:29.  The moving star field and Hoth add something to it, much like the MF/TIE escape from the DS scene in ANH:R.  You may want to also consider adding some sound FX {definitely some lower end bass) when Luke and the Taun-Taun are womped by the Wampa - maybe a neck breaking sound FX for the t-t)

PLEASE Ady, if there is one thing I beg NOT to take out or screw with, it's the spinning star field.  All of the other shots (like in ROTJ) the star fields don't spin because it is either not a life-or death escape sequence or the ships are going into one.   In the case of the MF in ANH and EMPIRE, the spinning star field (at least for me) enhanced the idea that (1) they are moving very fast and (2) they barely escaped on the skin of their teeth.

DarthStewie said:

though). I've already done a few modifications to ANH:R and I'll do it again to ESB:R because I like certain things that others do not.

Anyway, here's my clip from a long time ago that a lot of you new guys haven't seen. PLEASE..... TURN YOUR SOUND DOWN!!!! I didn't edit the audio because my computer has a F'd up virus and won't let me! It ruins the whole idea if you don't TURN DOWN THOSE SPEAKERS. Let me know what you guys think. I think it solves the whole 2 probes or 1 probe different timeframe issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw6mHFccFgo

 

So what changes have you done to your ANH:R? 

I think the only things that I would change would be to take the "sad" music out of the slo-mo Obi-Wan robe falling scene (to act as a buffer for the climactic music and the "Luke in shock" music; as it is, it all kind of crashes into one another) and replace the EMPIRE march during the TIE reveal in the Last Battle to something more ANH sounding and faster paced (which I plan on doing once I figure out Vegas and some other editing programs).  Otherwise, ANH:R is pretty much what I will be putting into the PS3 from now on (looks FANTASTIC on my 65" Toshiba).

PS: I LOVE your opening EMPIRE edit, including the scene wipes.  They all move according to the movement(s) on screen, which is what a good transition is supposed to do.  I also love how it takes awhile for the Probot to come out of the hole - keeps the audience guessing as to what is going to come out, or what will "whatever it is" look like.  Maybe something else you could add is a sonic boom as the probot pod is coming through the atmosphere (right before Luke pulls out the binocs).

And being that you are talking about a "revised" revised EMPIRE, how do you feel about green AT-AT lasers (sorry everybody, I had to get that in there)?

The spinning starfield is going to go, i'm afraid. It happens in ANH & ESB only. It was gone in ANH:R and i will be doing the same for the one time it appears for ESB:R

Monroville, the footage used in that youtube clip by Darth Stewie (good to see you back by the way stewie)  is all from ESB:R , so all my FX. I'm planing a different FX shot for when the falcon escapes into hyperspace at the end, so the spinning starfield won't work.

Now i also won't be cutting any of 3PO's lines in ESB:R. In fact i'm hoping to reinstate the original full line "I'm not ready to die..on the back of a demented Wookie" that was omitted from the 35mm & home video releases. It cuts off horribly the way it is now and sounds unnatural.

Now the thread seems to be getting a bit too argumentative , with everything thats been going on lately. I think we all need to calm down and take a step back. Things are getting really side tracked. Lets all go to our happy place. lol

On another note, is anyone in the UK going to Memorabilia in Birmingham this weekend? I'm taking my daughter and her sister and i was thinking of taking a couple of signed copies of ANH:R with me to give away

adywan said:

The spinning starfield is going to go, i'm afraid. It happens in ANH & ESB only. It was gone in ANH:R and i will be doing the same for the one time it appears for ESB:R

that is a bummer, man! (to quote The Dude)

Would you consider having the stars do the streaky thing at least?  I just find the non-spinning, non-anything with the stars do not give the appropriate indication that said MF is moving really, really fast.

Monroville, the footage used in that youtube clip by Darth Stewie (good to see you back by the way stewie)  is all from ESB:R.

Didn't realize it was already changed (it's been awhile since I've seen EMPIRE).  That is not a bummer.

Okay, this is more ROTJ stuff, but here are some links to check out:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_kick

(I'm taking it that this will be dealt with... personally?)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Narm/Film

Sorry, but this stuff was just too funny to pass up.

The "back of a demented Wookiee" line exists in recording?

adywan said:

On another note, is anyone in the UK going to Memorabilia in Birmingham this weekend? I'm taking my daughter and her sister and i was thinking of taking a couple of signed copies of ANH:R with me to give away

That would be awesome.  How would anyone who's not your friend on Facebook know who to look for?

Originally posted by Adywan:

"...i was thinking of taking a couple of signed copies of ANH:R with me to give away"

My lord, is that legal?

ImperialFighter said:

Oldfan said:

I'm not sure if it is possible to restore some of these without altering the scenes, but there are a few cues that I'm pretty sure you could fit right back in, if you wanted to. Just a thought that ocurred to me while watching the scenes.

 

I'm hoping for a little something to do with the Fleet over Hoth, if he adds to that in any way.... ;)

 

I agree, something should be added to the Fleet over Hoth, but I really have no idea what.  We should try to figure that out, using only existing elements from ESB and RotJ.  How about you and I work together on that, ImperialFighter?

Why am I experiencing deja vu?

Not bad.  I misread it as page 108, which is where it was.

Oldfan said:

I will miss the spinning starfield, but Adywan has said that he is planning a different fx shot in its place, so I'm sure it will work out fine.

Adywan, I had a question for you. I'm pretty sure you mentioned a while back that you won't be altering the music in Empire. I would agree with you there that the music was a masterpiece, and does not require any work. However, I have just finished watching the Editdroid disc 4 you posted, and I was very intrigued with the alternate audio cues that were included as extras. For those that have not seen this disc, there is almost an hour worth of scenes from the original trilogy featuring the original music cues that were composed for the scenes. As it said on the disc, for various reasons, like pacing, editing decisions, or simply mood, several music cues were changed, deleted, or trimmed in various scenes. There were 17 scenes featured from Empire, and the disc showed the restored scenes, as best as possible, with the original music, along with the final theatrical version for comparison. It was quite interesting to hear the music that we are all familiar with actually in the scenes they were recorded for. I'd imagine that you wouldn't want to restore all of that music, as it was changed for a reason. But I wondered if you would be interested in taking a look at those scenes, just in case something jumped out at you. I figured that since this was music composed for the film, it would entirely fit in, and I especially liked "Imperial Fleet", the original Imperial March intro when you first see Darth Vader (the version that was actually used was composed as a "concert rendition", only to be heard on the official soundtrack album). I also loved a few of the scenes that originally erupted in various versions of the Imperial March during transitions to other scenes, like "Fleet Transition" and "Needa/Piggyback". We have all heard these bits for ages on the soundtracks, but to hear it in the film is amazing.

I'm not sure if it is possible to restore some of these without altering the scenes, but there are a few cues that I'm pretty sure you could fit right back in, if you wanted to. Just a thought that ocurred to me while watching the scenes.

 

Funnily enough, i was watching disc 4 the other day and i was thinking about doing something with the unused cues. What i have decided is that, for the DVD-9 version of ESB:R i will be doing an extra alternate audio track that will have all the cues integrated back into the movie

doubleofive said:

adywan said:

On another note, is anyone in the UK going to Memorabilia in Birmingham this weekend? I'm taking my daughter and her sister and i was thinking of taking a couple of signed copies of ANH:R with me to give away

That would be awesome.  How would anyone who's not your friend on Facebook know who to look for?

I was going to put up a few clues so it would be easy to recognise me.  There are a few of the Star Wars cast there. So far there is KENNY BAKER, JEREMY BULLOCH, WARWICK DAVIS, MICHAEL CULVER (captain Needa), KEN COLLEY (Piett) & Julian Glover (Veers).

ImperialFighter said:

By the way Adywan, I don't think this has been brought up yet, but I really hope you will incorporate one or two of your subtle 'sun glare reflections' into this edit, as the one you did in the 'escape pod approaching Tattooine' shot was terrific, and really added to the look of that scene.  Perhaps in the 'snowspeeder searching for Han and Luke on Hoth' scene, as it's bright and sunny then, or during the sunset scenes as the MF nears Bespin....

They might be making an appearance or two, yes :)

Monroville said:

adywan said:

The spinning starfield is going to go, i'm afraid. It happens in ANH & ESB only. It was gone in ANH:R and i will be doing the same for the one time it appears for ESB:R

that is a bummer, man! (to quote The Dude)

Would you consider having the stars do the streaky thing at least?  I just find the non-spinning, non-anything with the stars do not give the appropriate indication that said MF is moving really, really fast.

yes, the stars will still do the "streaky thing".

Darth Stewie, I was just looking at that clip again and it was mentioned that the first wipe is a bit jarring. Well i think i may have an idea. At the moment you have the iris coming outwards. Well, if you reverse that wipe and have it going inwards then it will almost follow the path of the probe and blend in better with the next shot. Just an idea

yay! Going to incorporate the unused music in an audio track yay! lol

Let me know if you need help with that ;-)

adywan said:

What i have decided is that, for the DVD-9 version of ESB:R i will be doing an extra alternate audio track that will have all the cues integrated back into the movie

AWESOME! I look forward very much to hearing that. Will there be both versions of the score-only track too? (I know it's horribly rude of me to respond to such wonderful news with a request for more, but I just wondered.)

yes, the stars will still do the "streaky thing".

Hyperspace explained for the layman: "Streaky thing goes in, streaky thing comes out."