C3PX said:twister111 said:I've only seen a few Trek episodes. Even I know it's a big frakkup to have Spock go all Midevil on Kirk. Hell, I remember an episode that implied that Spock loved Kirk as much as 1960's Trek could...
...Also, I know in that episode Spock hits Kirk but, it's only once... Not like in the Trek trailer where he's choking Kirk.... That and, Spocks inhibitions are gone from some virus in that episode. . . So, I guess that Spock gets brainwashed or, something in the Trek film...
It doesn't have anything to do with brainwashing, the new movie takes place before TOS, I think what they are going for in the new movie is a twist where Kirk and Spock didn't get along when they first met. I am guessing after they go through the hardships that are the films main plot, there will be a touching moment where we will realize they have developed a deep respect for one another, which will be the beginning of a life long friendship...
Either way it's hard to imagine them playing it out that Kirk was okay with becoming life long friends with someone that started out choking him. There's got to be middle ground there...
^Can you see life-long friendship coming out of that?
Also that scene from the naked now that implies Spock loved Kirk as much as 1960s TV would allow, is not what you seem to think it is. Vulcans, are a highly evolved race who have evolved beyond the need to show emotion. Spock's dad is a Vulcan, but his mother is a human. That is why he is talking about having had to suppress his emotions all his life, never having told his mother he loved her, and being ashamed whenever he thinks of his friendship with Kirk. He wasn't ashamed because he had some kind of supressed romantic feelings for Kirk that he was admitting to under the influence of the virus, he had a normal strong kind of brotherly friendship many of us guys have with our closest friends. He admitted to having felt ashamed of those feelings, because his Vulcan upbringing told him he was not suppose to have those feelings at all.Spock going medieval on Kirk wasn't a frakkup because Spock would never do that to Kirk, but because as a good overly logical little Vulcan, Spock would not loose his temper and smack anyone. Vulcans are suppose to be beyond that. Maybe the movie will try to focus on how Spock has to struggle with his human side. Which again would be contrary to not only continuity, but also to the spirit of the character, since Spock has often expressed his confusion and difficulty in understanding humans and their emotions and why they do the things they do.
Okay, so this is what happens when I make assumptions without knowing that much about the backstory.... I shall back out of this thread now. *leaves*