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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
The first four movies, OHMSS, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, Dalton's two, and Casino Royale hit very close to Ian Fleming's books both in terms of the nature of the character and the plots. The others are wild flights of fancy. Craig has brought back Ian Fleming's James Bond to the screen, and that's a VERY good thing.

Read the books. They're awesome fun without being overly high-minded. You'll especially love stuff like Moonraker, Live and Let Die, and You Only Live Twice and how the stories blow their celluloid counterparts out of the water.


IMHO, the card game in the book "Moonraker" is one of the best moments in Bond history. The rest of the book is just OK, but still way better then the film. "Live and let Die" is a must read! Remember these books are from another time in history and it shows. If you can get passed that, you are in for a great ride.

The makers of the "Casino Royale" film did a great job with the card game in that film, and it felt very much like Felming's style to me.

I'm re-reading all the books right now (in publishing order), and only up to the end of Moonraker. It's been close to 25 years since I last read them all.

The editing of the film "Casino Royale" was top notch, and I think it helped it a lot.

I want "Quantum of Solace" to be good, but with a new Director and Editor, who knows what we will get. My hopes are high, and I will be there opening night.

FYI, If you don't have time to read them, there is a torrent of the first 15 James Bond novels in Audio Book format out there if you do a bit of searching. The unabridged versions by Blackstone Audio, and read by Robert Whitfield are top of the line, and I enjoy them the most. Whatever you do, stay away from Bond on audio done by American voice actors! It takes away from the feel these books should have way too much.



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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
a new Director and Editor

I didn't realise that and am slightly dissapointed. Anyone know why Martin Campbell isn't returning? I though Goldeneye was the only decent brosnan Bond film.

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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
a new Director and Editor

I didn't realise that and am slightly dissapointed. Anyone know why Martin Campbell isn't returning? I though Goldeneye was the only decent brosnan Bond film.


"Quantum of Solace"

Directed by
Marc Forster

Produced by
Barbara Broccoli .... producer
Callum McDougall .... executive producer
Anthony Waye .... executive producer
Michael G. Wilson .... producer

Writing credits
Ian Fleming (characters)

Robert Wade (adaptation)

Paul Haggis screenplay
Neal Purvis screenplay
Robert Wade screenplay

Original Music by
David Arnold

Cinematography by
Roberto Schaefer

Film Editing by
Matt Chesse
Richard Pearson

Now, the info below is kind of old, but will give you an idea about what was in the air about Martin Campbell returning..

According to Variety, Campbell, whose other directorial efforts include GoldenEye, The Mask of Zorro and one of my favorite guilty pleasures, No Escape, will not be taking the reigns of Bond 22 as his next project. Instead, he is in talks to direct the action-thriller Unstoppable for 20th Century Fox and producers Julie Yorn and Mimi Rogers. The film, said to be on the "fast track" at Fox, is scripted by Live Free or Die Hard vet Mark Bomback and tells the story of a train engineer and his conductor in a race against time to stop a runaway train filled with toxic chemicals before it derails and takes out a town. Ok, I guess that sounds better than another Bond film. Although, given that other directors have decided not to do Bond 22, including Roger Mitchell (which I told you about before), perhaps there's something negative about the project that's influencing their decisions? Maybe the script is really bad or the producers are exceptionally difficult to work with? Or perhaps Daniel Craig is secretly a jerk and doesn't take direction well? Or, for Campbell, maybe its just a case of "been there done that"?

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Despite making quite a bit of noise to the contrary, Casino Royale director Martin Campbell has hinted a return to the James Bond franchise may be on the cards after all.

Speaking to USA Today to promote the DVD release of Daniel Craig’s first 007 film, Campbell said, “After GoldenEye, I was asked to do subsequent Bonds, but I declined because it felt as if I’d be repeating myself. But this one is based on a Bond that’s more interesting. To be honest, I would just say I’d never say never.”

Having also directed GoldenEye in 1995, Martin Campbell was the first director to return to the franchise since John Glen’s five-film run in the 1980s. Casino Royale was widely praised as the best Bond film in years, garnering a haul of awards nominations.

Campbell also revealed a second DVD of Casino Royale will eventually appear. When quizzed about the lack of commentaries on the current Casino Royale DVD release, Campbell said, “Yes, we are doing a commentary. I think [the studio] tends to milk these things [with Bond films]. When I did GoldenEye, I did it with the producer [Michael G. Wilson]. We’ll probably do it with [the producers].”

He also revealed the next DVD release may include deleted scenes.

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Now for some new rumors....

James Bond to wed in Quantum Of Solace?

British actress Gemma Arterton has hinted that James Bond may tie the knot in the forthcoming 007 movie.

The 22-year-old star told a US TV reporter that she and Daniel Craig had been shooting scenes in a honeymoon suite for the film, which is titled 'Quantum of Solace'.

The surprised journalist asked: "Honeymoon suite?", prompting Arterton to reply: "I think I've said too much."


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I don't know how I feel about Marc Forster. He's a CHARACTER director which speaks volumes about the direction they're taking Bond. Finding Neverland was a great film. But I turned Monster's Ball off 20 minutes into it, which is rare for me, and I finished Stranger Than Fiction but didn't feel as though I'd seen anything great. I'm putting a lot of trust in Wilson/Broccoli and in Craig not to let the film become a snoozer. I don't think that's possible with the same writing team from CR. But Forster and the editing team can make or break this film.

Of course, Stuart Baird is unparalleled as an editor (we won't comment on his abilities as a director *coughTREKcough*) so he will be missed the most of all.
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no shit thanks to baird nemesis almost killed the star trek franchise, and its failure lead to the cancellation of enterprise and firing of rick berman and now renewal of his contract as producer.

the future of the franchise hinges on the j.j. abrams movie if it fails it will be jj's fault no big screen or small screen trek will ever happen again, the last nail in the coffin.

not to mention long time fans of the next generation trek were pissed that their favorite heroes went out with a whimper instead of a bang.

plus beyond being a trek film nemesis fails to stand alone and work as a movie the movie just does not work, it is one of the worst pieces of shit films ever, but what do you expect from berman and co, look at how they killed kirk.

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Weird-ass title, if you ask me.

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Originally posted by: C3PX
I like that it is another Fleming title. I would like to the new series of Bond movies stick with Fleming's stuff, which is the way it is going so far.


AT THIS POINT IN THE FRANCHISE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT CAN GO.


How? They're out of Fleming stories now!

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
The first four movies, OHMSS, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, Dalton's two, and Casino Royale hit very close to Ian Fleming's books both in terms of the nature of the character and the plots. The others are wild flights of fancy. Craig has brought back Ian Fleming's James Bond to the screen, and that's a VERY good thing.

Read the books. They're awesome fun without being overly high-minded. You'll especially love stuff like Moonraker, Live and Let Die, and You Only Live Twice and how the stories blow their celluloid counterparts out of the water.


Fleming didn't exactly write high art though; he was basically a pulp writer, and some of the "flights of fancy" were pretty fun (The Spy Who Loved Me, Goldeneye).

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“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Weird-ass title, if you ask me.

Fleming didn't exactly write high art though; he was basically a pulp writer, and some of the "flights of fancy" were pretty fun (The Spy Who Loved Me, Goldeneye).


What is weird about the title? I am wondering if it is coming under such criticism because people don't know what those words mean, or because they are words that see relatively little regular use. I like that they are both very powerful words that seem to get very little use in common speech, it is very poetic title too.

As for Fleming's flight's of fancy, "The Spy Who Loved Me" and "Goldeneye"... you do realize Fleming did not write Goldeneye, right?

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Originally posted by: Mike O
Weird-ass title, if you ask me.


I think this is going to be a GREAT title, once this new story unfolds.


In the short story "Quantum of Solace" from the book "For Your Eyes Only",

Bond makes a remark to the Governor of The Bahamas, about how it would be nice to marry an air hostess. In response, The Governor tells Bond about an emotional phenomenon that the Governor calls a "Quantum of Solace".

The Governor tells Bond, that a "Quantum of Solace" is the smallest unit of human compassion that two people can have. As long as that compassion exists, people can last together. When the solace is all gone, (when your partner no longer cares about your essential humanity), the relationship is over. The Governor then tells Bond the sad but true story of a loveless and vengeful relationship.

At the end of the Governor's story Bond is depressed, and suddenly finds his life of adventure to be fundamentally boring compared to the real human drama the Governor has just told him.


"The unwritten part of the story, the essential truth never spelled out in so many words but clear to anyone who has spent the last week reading the original Bond books is this --

No one in the world has a "Quantum of Solace" for James Bond.

He is alone. The people closest to him are M., who, in the end treats him like a fine hunting dog, and his elderly housekeeper May, who, as much as she may fuss and fret about his health, will eventually retire and be done with him. From this point on in the series, Bond is crumbling, a man sliding down the slope of his career, a human being rather than the automaton Fleming originally set out to create."

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Hmm. Well, for starters, I was mispronouncing it . You know, now that it's been explained, it's starting to grow on me, though it's still a bit unwieldy to get off the tongue. Then again, it'll probably fit Fleming's pulpy world in the movie pretty well.

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Max von Sydow drops a bomb on Bond 22!

Back to Blofeld!

From the beginning, Broccoli & Saltzman had a vision of a continuing series with a continuing nemesis for Bond. SPECTRE is introduced late in the books—in Thunderball, the eighth of Fleming’s twelve novels. In the novels, Blofeld then returns for OHMSS and YOLT. But Eon wanted a thread of consistency, an overarching menace, and Blofeld fit the bill perfectly.

The Film Experience has an interview up with Max von Sydow, who is promoting his new movie, The Diving Bell and Butterfly. Starring as von Sydow’s son in Diving Bell is Mathieu Amalric, who has been strongly rumored, lately, to be the villain for Bond 22. I’ll let von Sydow tell the rest (emphasis added):

N: Were you familiar with Mathieu Amalric before making the movie?

MVS: I didn’t know him. I met him for the first time in front of the camera …which happens all the time. Unfortunately.

N: Then you really have to find that familial connection quickly.

MVS: This can be very absurd. I don’t like this situation. I’d rather be at least a little bit acquainted with actors I work with. He’s a very good actor. He has directed also. He’s done a lot of good work.

MVS: He’s directed films also. He’s going to be Blofeld in the next James Bond.

N: Oh! [editors note: Max von Sydow also played Blofeld in the 1983 James Bond film one-off Never Say Never Again with Sean Connery]

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ok, finally watched it..

 

daniel craig really is killing off the bond franchise..

 

i didn't like casino royale, and this didn't improve craigs acting either..

 

yes, the stunts were great, i'll give it that...

 

but the story was subpar, the acting overly dramatic,

and off course there's always the terrible henchmen that cant hit the broadside

of a barn with a machine gun that always miss bond..

 

to the predicatable plot twists, to the boring climax...yawn..

 

what happened to this franchise???

 

i know, i must have been the only person that actually LIKED both

of the timothy dalton versions... although sean connery could never

have been replaced...

 

maybe they'll replace daniel craig, and try it again soon with someone else?

 

or maybe they should just let the series die off with whatever dignity (if any)

that is has left..

 

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Dude, from what I understand, you live in America? So how did you see this?...

Killing off the Bond franchise? Dude, did you see OHMSS, Never Say Never Again, A View to a Kill, A License to Kill, or Die Another Day? My goodness, if the franchise can survive those films, nothing will ever kill off the Bond franchise. Though as much as I don't feel Craig really works that great as Bond, Casino Royale breathed new life into the franchise and brought it back closer to its source material. Since I don't live in the UK, I have not seen this yet and can't give my judgment of whether or not it continues that trend.

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C3PX said:

Dude, from what I understand, you live in America? So how did you see this?...

 

 errrr.... look around on the internet.. (seriously, most

*AHEM* sharing sites have it now)...

it's out.... it came out in the UK/europe last week...

 

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I only found a copy with french audio....damn

Hey look, a bear!

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I only found a copy with french audio....damn

 

 yeah, i know..... (i understand some french, since i lived in canada for 10 years)...

but its not that hard to follow the story..

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ok, finally watched it..

 

daniel craig really is killing off the bond franchise..

 

i didn't like casino royale, and this didn't improve craigs acting either..

 

yes, the stunts were great, i'll give it that...

 

but the story was subpar, the acting overly dramatic,

and off course there's always the terrible henchmen that cant hit the broadside

of a barn with a machine gun that always miss bond..

 

to the predicatable plot twists, to the boring climax...yawn..

 

what happened to this franchise???

 

i know, i must have been the only person that actually LIKED both

of the timothy dalton versions... although sean connery could never

have been replaced...

 

maybe they'll replace daniel craig, and try it again soon with someone else?

 

or maybe they should just let the series die off with whatever dignity (if any)

that is has left..

 

later

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Well fuck me there's a surprise...a film you didn't like.  ;)

 

Personally, after the slime ball Brosnan, the only way Bond could go was up. I thought Casino Royal was a pretty good Bond flick. Took the whole franchise in a new direction. I like the way Quantum follows on straight from the last film (although I've yet to see it). I'm just glad they've gone a different route from all the the silly gimmicks and bloody invisible cars.

 

As for Licence to Kill...I though that was one of the better Bonds. Craig and Dalton actually play Bond quite similar. A back to basics Bond.

 

Hopefully We'll get to see the film this weekend.

 

 

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Martin Campbell directed the 2 Best modern Bond films with Goldeneye and Casino Royale.

He also directed the Good movie Mask of Zorro and the not so good kiddie  sequel .  I was nervous at the time because Legend of Zorro was such a turd after Goldeneye and Mask of Zorro i thought Casino Royale would be awful.

there were things that i did not like about the movie.  It being a reboot and so not really a prequel to Dr No because not in the sixties, cell phones and mention of 911.  Not the Same Suave and cool dude as Connery Played, more like Jack Bower or Jason Borne.  In essence they wanted a more american bond than brittish High Style had to go.  They last time they  tried to Americanize bond we got the dalton bond.  Not the way i would have gone, but a different bond.  To each there own. 

My fave Bonds are Connery, Followed by Brosnan, Moore, Dalton, Craig, and Lazenby.

Moore put out the silliest Pictures until we got the world is not enough and die another day.  Die Another die could have been a better film but the screenwriters and producers who deserve all the blame shifted it onto Brosnan who is a fine actor in other films besides being the best Bond since Connery.

Brosnan Himself wanted to do more serious Bond and was waiting for them to give him a good script.  He wanted the more Fleming Bond last seen in the Dalton films.  He wanted more control and say over the script because of how silly the last film was.  They thought he became a problem and so fired him.  He  had a contract to make another bond film which they cancelled.

The only good dalton film which is decent but not the smash hit Goldeneye was is Living Daylights.  The Dalton films were the lowest money makers of all the bond films from what i have heard.  License to Kill with the hammy Villain from the Goonies and that Viva Las Vegas Dude could have not been a worse movie.

Dalton seemed to be a stiff.  He acted by not acting, he was very much  Like   a stage play actor and not a movie star.  He apparently still thinks he is james bond.  Watch his laughable performance in Loony Tunes Back in action.  So it goes for the dude who turned down Goldeneye.

The franchise Almost died with Dalton.  we had the Black years with no Bond films at all.  It's like George Clooney in Batman and Robin, and we had to wait so long for Batman to come back in the form of Christian Bale.

In the Dalton years filmgoers no longer cared about Bond.  Bond was no longer drawing in an audience.  Bond no Longer resonated with People, Bond no Longer mattered.  Until Brosnan saved the Franchise in Goldeneye.  Finally audiences got the Expensive blockbuster action packed kickass hero they were waiting for.  Better Special effects and more awesome gadgets.  Bond was fun to watch again and not snore inducing.  The Brosnan reinvented Bond was back to the fun of the connery pictures.  Then years later when Brosnans Paycheck got to big for the studios they reinvented bond again, for a more grim post 911 world.

Die another Day was a huge hit.  The studios made money.  They were taking a calculated risk in rebooting the entire series and throwing all previous bond out the window and casting an unknown.

While i liked Casino Royale to me it was a good action flick but was not James Bond.  It reminded me of the cuthroat american action star movies and tv.  We have our Rambos, John Mclanes, Our Jack Bowers and Jason Bornes.  I want Bond to be Bond.  A Ladykiller.  The consumate man Of style, the suave and debonaire Guy who is cool under all circumstances ready to make a comedic joke as he takes down another bad guy.

That is the Cubby Broccoli Bond and the Connery Bond.  It might Not be the Fleming Bond of the books who is "just a blunt object" as he put it.  They created a real character for the movies that existed outside the books. The Character that Terence Young created for the screen.  On the Silver screen our heroes are larger than life.  and are not supposed to be a projection of reality.  People who want  Literary can aways pick up a damn book and read it.

That being said Chris Cornells song was awesome and Alicia Keyes and Jack whites song is just plain awful the worst bond song by far even worse than madonnas.

 When i heard Jack White of the band the white stripes which i hate was singing this i wanted it banned.  A pussified band where the dude sings Like a girl.  I'll take Chris Cornell any day over that.  Alicia Keys is a very good singer but was just awful here.  The producers wanted a song Like Mcartneys Live and Let Die and tried to get him to wirte and sing one for this movie.  Instead they make a Mcartney esque song ripoff of live and let die mixed with some bizarre Jazz Hiphop fusion wanting to stop up my ears as they bleed the song was so awful. White's coked up zombie face in the video is creepy. and Keys sings off key. Also they have zero chemistry together as a duet.

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Martin Campbell directed the 2 Best modern Bond films with Goldeneye and Casino Royale.

He also directed the Good movie Mask of Zorro and the not so good kiddie  sequel .  I was nervous at the time because Legend of Zorro was such a turd after Goldeneye and Mask of Zorro i thought Casino Royale would be awful.

there were things that i did not like about the movie.  It being a reboot and so not really a prequel to Dr No because not in the sixties, cell phones and mention of 911.  Not the Same Suave and cool dude as Connery Played, more like Jack Bower or Jason Borne.  In essence they wanted a more american bond than brittish High Style had to go.  They last time they  tried to Americanize bond we got the dalton bond.  Not the way i would have gone, but a different bond.  To each there own. 

My fave Bonds are Connery, Followed by Brosnan, Moore, Dalton, Craig, and Lazenby.

Moore put out the silliest Pictures until we got the world is not enough and die another day.  Die Another die could have been a better film but the screenwriters and producers who deserve all the blame shifted it onto Brosnan who is a fine actor in other films besides being the best Bond since Connery.

Brosnan Himself wanted to do more serious Bond and was waiting for them to give him a good script.  He wanted the more Fleming Bond last seen in the Dalton films.  He wanted more control and say over the script because of how silly the last film was.  They thought he became a problem and so fired him.  He  had a contract to make another bond film which they cancelled.

The only good dalton film which is decent but not the smash hit Goldeneye was is Living Daylights.  The Dalton films were the lowest money makers of all the bond films from what i have heard.  License to Kill with the hammy Villain from the Goonies and that Viva Las Vegas Dude could have not been a worse movie.

Dalton seemed to be a stiff.  He acted by not acting, he was very much  Like   a stage play actor and not a movie star.  He apparently still thinks he is james bond.  Watch his laughable performance in Loony Tunes Back in action.  So it goes for the dude who turned down Goldeneye.

The franchise Almost died with Dalton.  we had the Black years with no Bond films at all.  It's like George Clooney in Batman and Robin, and we had to wait so long for Batman to come back in the form of Christian Bale.

In the Dalton years filmgoers no longer cared about Bond.  Bond was no longer drawing in an audience.  Bond no Longer resonated with People, Bond no Longer mattered.  Until Brosnan saved the Franchise in Goldeneye.  Finally audiences got the Expensive blockbuster action packed kickass hero they were waiting for.  Better Special effects and more awesome gadgets.  Bond was fun to watch again and not snore inducing.  The Brosnan reinvented Bond was back to the fun of the connery pictures.  Then years later when Brosnans Paycheck got to big for the studios they reinvented bond again, for a more grim post 911 world.

Die another Day was a huge hit.  The studios made money.  They were taking a calculated risk in rebooting the entire series and throwing all previous bond out the window and casting an unknown.

While i liked Casino Royale to me it was a good action flick but was not James Bond.  It reminded me of the cuthroat american action star movies and tv.  We have our Rambos, John Mclanes, Our Jack Bowers and Jason Bornes.  I want Bond to be Bond.  A Ladykiller.  The consumate man Of style, the suave and debonaire Guy who is cool under all circumstances ready to make a comedic joke as he takes down another bad guy.

That is the Cubby Broccoli Bond and the Connery Bond.  It might Not be the Fleming Bond of the books who is "just a blunt object" as he put it.  They created a real character for the movies that existed outside the books. The Character that Terence Young created for the screen.  On the Silver screen our heroes are larger than life.  and are not supposed to be a projection of reality.  People who want  Literary can aways pick up a damn book and read it.

That being said Chris Cornells song was awesome and Alicia Keyes and Jack whites song is just plain awful the worst bond song by far even worse than madonnas.

 When i heard Jack White of the band the white stripes which i hate was singing this i wanted it banned.  A pussified band where the dude sings Like a girl.  I'll take Chris Cornell any day over that.  Alicia Keys is a very good singer but was just awful here.  The producers wanted a song Like Mcartneys Live and Let Die and tried to get him to wirte and sing one for this movie.  Instead they make a Mcartney esque song ripoff of live and let die mixed with some bizarre Jazz Hiphop fusion wanting to stop up my ears as they bleed the song was so awful. White's coked up zombie face in the video is creepy. and Keys sings off key. Also they have zero chemistry together as a duet.

 

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ok, you can watch it in english now..(look around)

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this review pretty much sums it up:

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http://www.monstersandcritics.com/movies/reviews/article_1442860.php/Quantum_of_Solace_-_Movie_Review

 

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Cameras are placed at awkward angles, shots are too tight and it’s an eye-splitting jumble. Unfortunately, these poor production values mar chase and action sequences throughout the film.

There are no truly jaw-droppingly impressive gizmos. Another Bond wink bites the dust.  Just some agency owned superwalls - think CNN on US election night - and cool cars.

 

Bond is lacking in dimension of character but high on jumping, rough housing and shooting.   Craig’s rougher Bond fails to differentiate himself in the field of action stars today.  What originally set Bond apart from the rest was style, wit, sex and class.

All gone.

The brilliant, maddening, stylish, elegant and brainy spy Sir Ian Fleming created is dead. He has been reincarnated as an X-Box game character.

 

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honestly, in this day and age... although still not excellent,

the bourne trilogy set the high mark....(only the first movie,

the second was a rehash, and the third was decent)..

 

yes, it had improbable chases, long drawn out fights, etc..

but it still had more intrugue, a better plot, and just out-classed

all the previous bond movies going way back to before brosnan

screwed up the entire series, with a sub-roger moore type bond..

that's what really killed off bond...

 

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Wow, they are predicting a 70 million opening for Bond this weekend.  I have to say that I just don't get it, and never really understood the love for Bond Sequel after Bond Sequel.  I understand that people know exactly what they are getting walking into a Bond movie, and that is its appeal, but I think that is why I have never really been a huge fan of them.

For me personally, the only type of films I like have to have an interesting story, something that I don't walk in knowing what exactly is going to happen.  I guess that's why I don't go to the movies much anymore....

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"honestly, in this day and age... although still not excellent,

the bourne trilogy set the high mark....(only the first movie,

the second was a rehash, and the third was decent).."

I dunno man, I was bored to tears during the first film (also found it pretty ridiculous and dumb, not at all deep, like some people seem to feel it is), slept through the second one, and though I was perfectly awake during the third, I felt very irritated that I felt I had somehow already seen this film before.

I find it funny so many people said things like, "Flemings Bond is dead" after Casino Royale came out, when in fact CR was the closest any Bond film has ever come to one of Fleming's novels.

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I gotta agree with the negative one on this one.  I liked Casino Royale, but this wasa TERRIBLE TERRIBLE movie.  Blink and you missed something important.  Daniel Craig makes a fine Bond, but his performance couldn't save this one.  The camera angles must have changed every five seconds, and if it didn't make you dizzy it annoyed the HELL outta you.  I would have walked out if my friend didn't pay.

Oh, and by the way, British people drive on the left Mr. Director ;)

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Just saw the movie. I didn't think it was that terrible, but after seeing Casino Royale take what appeared to be strides towards a more substance over style kind of Bond film, I felt that this one with its drawn out and overly simple plot and its pointless action scene after pointless action scene, has taken us pretty much right back to where we started. It might not have been as over the top and ridiculous as Die Another Day, but it is well on its way back to that point. Good job guys. Who wants serious Bond movies anyways?

Still wished they would have stuck with the books and made a more true to Flemming remake of Live and Let Die as a followup to Casino Royale.

All in all, this one reminded me a lot of the Dalton films, sans some of the over the top antics (semitruck pops a wheelie, Wayne Newton, etc).

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape