Chewy72 said:
The problem is that CGI just looks fake in the movies today, for me IMO. I agree that stop motion models is very time consuming, and probably more costly, but that is the reason the OOT movies hold up so well years later, is they still look real. I look at the golden years for action/scifi movies of the late 70's/early 80's and these movies just hold up so much better then most movies today.
well, when CG is used correctly, it doesn't look 'fake' to me... besides, the problem is most of
the objects aren't real to begin with in the first place (spaceships, aliens, etc)... so how can
we know what looks 'fake'.. it's subjective mostly..
i don't THINK the special effects hold up that well at all, especially the stuff done in the 70's
and 80's, because now we're much more prone to analyze it, and see all the defects and problems..
(ie..look at fanedits, the SE, etc).....
ALL special effects can take someone out of a movie...look at the landspeeder effects of the
original vs now.. the tauntan, the AT-AT's walking, etc.... all look jerky, and you can tell they
don't have the smooth motion that can be created now.. .even the spaceships look 'stiff'
and limited in their movements..
they've got a ways to go in creating a reasonable balance in between models, and CG,
but it's more of a taste of artistry than technical ability.... given enough time, and rendering,
with the right artwork, you can see the difference..... it just comes down to us believing it..
I always use the analogy of how Jaws was made, and if it was made today, it wouldn't be as good. Spielberg simply couldn't get the shark to work, so he doesn't even show him in the first hour, which turns out to be genius because the music really messes with the viewer and finally the shark shows up on screen. The movie has great characters who really drive the story, and I believe if Jaws was made in 2008, it would be a CGI-fest movie with the shark being the star of the movie, and they would probably have George Clooney or some dopey actor as the Roy Scheider character.
i don't know if you've seen 'deep blue sea', but of course they used CG sharks in that movie,
and it wasn't half bad.. of course the plot was basically just a sub-jaws-alien-jurassic park type, so it
was predicatable..
jaws copied a lot of movie traits (ie. the thing, any movie with a creature stalking people),
and of course alien copied it.... so i don't think i'll give credit to speilberg for being creative
for the pacing of the plot.......................i do give him credit for putting it all together though..
the problem with remaking those types of movie today, is that most people would be
too impatient to wait for it (ie. the monster in cloverfield).....and hence wouldn't care as much
for that kind of story anyways..... what would be the point? people have already been exposed
to it way too many times to be intrigued by that plot gimmick.....
those days are long gone..(kinda sad though)..
later
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