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Kurgan
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
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11-Nov-2008, 3:37 AM

 

adywan said:

      
Kurgan said:

        I thought you said that the removal of color was due to the aging of the film and the crappy restoration jobs of the past...


    Well i have never said that anywhere. I'd love to know where you think i am supposed to ahve said that.



    I cannot locate the original posts, but I KNOW you've said before that the color information has been lost in some scenes (when you were talking about ANH revisited). People pointed out that some scenes look like black & white with color "pasted on." There are some shots where this is glaringly obvious, like the one where the TIE pilots follow Vader down that hallway to meet the Rebels.


Are you saying you just did this for stylistic reasons, not because of the loss of color information?



           
Kurgan said:

            I think you had the right idea with making all the TIEs blue. Why are you making them all gray in one version and all blue in another? Your HD edition is also a fan edit... I just don't understand the back & forth. Blue just looks better. Heck, even if you just left the TIEs as is (how they looked in 1980) that'd be cool. There's been nothing wrong with them all this time. To suddenly make them all gray just makes it more boring, visually. Gray TIEs next to gray asteroids, gray ISDs on a black background with white stars, chasing other gray objects. Yawn.


The HD version is a restoration of the theatrical SE and not a fan edit at all.



    Oh, okay, you took the 2004 edition and modified it to create a pseudo-1997 SE...  did you put Luke's "scream" back in there? ;)

 

 

Sounds like it's as much a fan edit as the "Classic Editions,"...

 

 

I never liked the blue TIEs since ESB's release. The Revisited edits were started so i can get versions of the saga that i have always wanted to see ( not counting the the OUT of course), so removing blue TIEs fits into that perfectly. I toyed with the idea of keeping blue TIEs only due to nostalgia but after seeing the completed colour correction for those sequences i just didn't like them.




Maybe you should post some clips to show us how much better they look?

If you find having grey TIEs boring then i'm not forcing you to watch it.Its not like i'm saying "This is the only version of the Star Wars saga that exists". I'm not George you know. :)




    Hey, I'm just trying to help you make it the best it can be! Nobody is forcing you to do this, either...



        Kurgan said:

        But you went and recolored the TIEs for the HD ESB, and now you're going to re-color (or desaturate) them again? And do the same for ROTJ? Look, I know you don't want to go back to ANH:R, but it sounds like you're saying you're locked into "consistency." But that's saying you're doing this to cover a mistake you made (in not making the TIEs in ANH blue to match the rest of the saga).


        I can understand you hating blue because of the tints that Lowry Digital/Lucasfilm put in in 2004, but don't hate on the original TIE fighters for something those guys screwed up 24 years later!


    yes i recoloured the TIEs for the restoration only. I have said this already. And i did not make a mistake by not colouring the TIEs blue in ANH at all. And i'm certainly not trying to cover anything by having the TIEs grey for consistancy.

 

So it's not for consistency, it's just because you didn't like blue TIE Fighters in 1980?

Apparently that's not a widespread phenomenon... more people were upset about the "Correllian Blood stripe" fiasco... (and for the record, that doesn't need tinkering with either!)

 

 

It also has nothing to do with the 2004 restoration either. Check the pics i posted from the non restored version. Total screw up there.

 

But they're obviously meant to be blue in the movie. We might as well argue that C3PO is really meant to be silver, because in a few shots he doesn't look as vibrantly gold, and changes color from one shot to the next. R2D2's panels are black in a lot of shots, maybe, someone would argue, they should always be black? Or someone could bring up the lightsabers and say they should all be white like the props, or all blue as originally planned (or all red like the comic book).

Again, I think you had the right idea deciding to make them uniformly blue.

 

And another thing Lucasfilm screwed the colouring as they sent out a colour corrected version to Lowry, which was unthinkable as the colour correction should ahve been done after the restoration. They added the blue tint, not Lowry, which screwed the colouring up.

 

Is that why the menus and the "Bonus Materials" disc show the correct colors?

 

 

    I guess we can add another to the lsit now:

    The great probot/ meteor debate
    The great green laser debate
    The great TIE fighter blue / grey debate. lol

    :)

 

If you sell the T-shirts...

 

Well anyway, if you really insist on making all the TIEs gray, I guess it won't be too hard for someone to make "ESB:R v1.1 DVD" with blue TIEs restored...