Kurgan said:I didn't remove the pic, just resized it (hit refresh). It's one of several shots you can easily find with google image search from that show. You said before you wanted to tone down the blue, but still leave them blue, before. Then you said you wanted it gray after a few people seemed up for that idea... then when I mentioned it last time, you said you were making them blue and I'd just misunderstood. Now we're back to gray again?
Well for one i hadn't even started the colour correction on any of the FX scenes when i originally said that the TIEs would be blue. I was still planning what i was going to do. it wasn't until i saw what they look like blue that i made my final decision
Kurgan said:
I thought you said that the removal of color was due to the aging of the film and the crappy restoration jobs of the past...
Well i have never said that anywhere. I'd love to know where you think i am supposed to have said that.
Kurgan said:
I think you had the right idea with making all the TIEs blue. Why are you making them all gray in one version and all blue in another? Your HD edition is also a fan edit... I just don't understand the back & forth. Blue just looks better. Heck, even if you just left the TIEs as is (how they looked in 1980) that'd be cool. There's been nothing wrong with them all this time. To suddenly make them all gray just makes it more boring, visually. Gray TIEs next to gray asteroids, gray ISDs on a black background with white stars, chasing other gray objects. Yawn.
The HD version is a restoration of the theatrical SE and not a fan edit at all. I never liked the blue TIEs since ESB's release. The Revisited edits were started so i can get versions of the saga that i have always wanted to see ( not counting the the OUT of course), so removing blue TIEs fits into that perfectly. I toyed with the idea of keeping blue TIEs only due to nostalgia but after seeing the completed colour correction for those sequences i just didn't like them. If you find having grey TIEs boring then i'm not forcing you to watch it.Its not like i'm saying "This is the only version of the Star Wars saga that exists". I'm not George you know. :) This is just a fan edit. It's nothing special and not an official release. I'm getting more and more sympathetic towards George Lucas everyday. lol. Somedays i wish i'd never even done ANH:R
Kurgan said:
But you went and recolored the TIEs for the HD ESB, and now you're going to re-color (or desaturate) them again? And do the same for ROTJ? Look, I know you don't want to go back to ANH:R, but it sounds like you're saying you're locked into "consistency." But that's saying you're doing this to cover a mistake you made (in not making the TIEs in ANH blue to match the rest of the saga).
I can understand you hating blue because of the tints that Lowry Digital/Lucasfilm put in in 2004, but don't hate on the original TIE fighters for something those guys screwed up 24 years later!
yes i recoloured the TIEs for the restoration only. I have said this already. And i did not make a mistake by not colouring the TIEs blue in ANH at all. And i'm certainly not trying to cover anything by having the TIEs grey for consistency. It also has nothing to do with the 2004 restoration either. Check the pics i posted from the non restored version. Total screw up there. And another thing Lucasfilm screwed the colouring as they sent out a colour corrected version to Lowry, which was unthinkable as the colour correction should have been done after the restoration. They added the blue tint, not Lowry, which screwed the colouring up.
I guess we can add another to the lsit now:
The great probot/ meteor debate
The great green laser debate
The great TIE fighter blue / grey debate. lol
:)