The Clone Wars (2008 animated tv series) - a general discussion thread — Page 7

skyjedi2005 said:

I thought i already reviewed the Fifth Epsiode and said it sucked.  The animation is still wooden, The characters faces have zero emotion.  You know like in traditional animation where the chracters move fluidly and there eyes and mouths move and don't look like puppets carved out of wood.

no, you said the same things about the other four.. the animation style isn't going to change,

so why keep bringing it up?

The show is still about the "roger roger" robots which i said some retard had to have thought that would make a good series based on those annoying Robots from episode 1.  Might as well base a whole show on Jar Jar's adventures but i don't want to give Lucas any ideas.

this series is called the clone wars, how do you expect them to stop showing the robots?

also, there was a new type of commando droid that was pretty cool, and by the way didn't

you notice how the clones took advantage of the 'roger roger' part? and also how the droid

gave himself away by using it in trying to decoy the clones? it was actually used well in this

episode...

 

I want a Live action tv show that is like a subseries of the movies or a spin off cartoon, and what i got was a videogame cutscene made for third graders.

there is a live action show coming, why not wait until that comes out and watch it instead?

later

-1

rcb said:

man -1! you really ripped into that. bravo!

mmmmm....tastes good.

quote "I dont know how things are with you but if I don't like a show say 'Grey's Anatomy' for example, I'll do my best to avoid it. and I certainly wont waste my time spewing vitriol on a Grey's Anatomy fan forum."

Johnny Your analogy would make sense if this was prequeltrilogy.com but it is originaltrilogy.com and is dedicated to the real trilogy from 1977-1983.  When this site gets renamed Prequeltrilogy.com, special editions.com, or starwarsfaneditsofthespecialeditions.com i will take your words at face value.

Besides in post after post i have Elaborated on how crude the animation is and made real critical comments that you just decided to ignore.

Besides being the most poor and crudely animated show i have probably ever seen with such hype, this show suffers from what i would call "prequel trilogy syndrome".

American Animation like disney is fully animated, but even Japanese Animation which is limited animation the eyes and mouths of the characters can show expression and when the characters move in the frame it does not look Wooden like some Kid filmed a wooden Puppet in their basement as a reference for the movement in each frame.

George's animation studio should be compared to others and He can never Touch Pixar which was the first Lucasfilm animation which he sold because he said he never would make animated movies this was in 1983 or 1984 and then in 1999 the phantom menace premiered and was mostly computer animated cgi.

You would think Lucas would take notes on what worked in the prequels and what did not work.  What fans and critics hated about the prequels and the clone wars movie and use that criticism to produce a better series.  His ego is so huge he just does not care one bit what people want to see.

I mean Look at how Much better the Genddy Series was But Lucas thought he knew better.  It is almost as if he was jelous that someone could make better star wars than he could.  Which brings me back to how he treated kersh after empire strikes back was hailed the best of the original trilogy and in george's own mind his own little bizarro world empire is the worst of all six films.

He got tongue lashed by critics on the prequels and reproduced the self same problems of those 3 films in kotcs.  I mean how many times is a guy allowed to fool people and people still fall for it. 

It is just like triumph the insult dog named it "Lucas Table scraps".  This is actual fact it is His table scraps and just done for the money.  He no longer cares to put any creativity or care into his films and that stopped in 1989.

I find it incredibly Unbelievable that Episode 1 took the same five years to write that the 1977 star wars did but the quality is not even in the same ballpark, much less the same galaxy.

Kotcs went through a 19 year gestation period and was absolute shit.  Nobody i know in my family or my friends would disagree.  It was cheeseball level self parody and came off as Plan 9 from outer space part 2.

I will concede that perhaps it is a generational thing and that the kiddies of today want to see a different star wars than the one i am familiar with and grew up with.

I guess being 30 does separate me from the little kids who grew up on the prequels and absolutely love this show.  I just wish a more adult animated show could be made for fans of the old movies.  Trying to get what we want from George is worse than trying to get blood out of a stone.

I mean we can't get a properly restored and anamorphic theatrical release of the old trilogy, we cannot get comics or novels anymore that have that old style flavor to them, and the animation and games are all about the prequels and clone wars.

Us old timers favorite characters in the Legacy novels from del rey were pale mocking imitations of themselves in a bad story arc that was a rehash of the prequels.

I have to admit most of my fury and lashing out in hatred for the prequels and special editions is because of Lucas constant mistreatment of the original originals and the so called bone he threw us was the gout what a fucking joke that was.  The worse part being i had to buy the special edition 2004 for a second time to get it and buy all 3 seperately when a box of the 3 oot discs would have been what i wanted.

That being said i find the comics for Kotor and Legacy to be really very good because their is a lot of story potential there.  Unlike the prequels which you already knew what was going to happen in advance.  You knew which characters would live and die.  Lucas should have hired writers and directors to make either episode 7 or do a series set way in the future or way in the past so they could have a way to create new stories.

The stories perogative should be to move forward i hate all the reboots and prequels.  I think They made a mistake making the star wars prequels instead of the sequels and JJ is making the same mistake with star trek when it should be set way into the future and have unlimited story potential.

It is truly sad that the originals today are not flashy enough for kids who have the attention span of a flea to enjoy.  Thankfully i can cue up my Laserdisc player and be transported back in time to when movies were actually good.

Okay so i saw the trailer for the sixth Episode and Looks like they have taken some of the complaints to heart and are trying to improve the animation.  I saw Lip movement and eye movement and character expression.  Now if they can hammer out a good script which is doubtful i would be enjoying this more.

People always forget that i metion i like the Genddy Series and The Republic Comics. 

I actually like the Character of Ahsoka in the Series as apposed to her bratty portrayal in the movie.

Believe it or not i actually liked the movie better so far than the series which is the exact opposite of what everyone else thinks.  I like Jedi Fighting Sith and Lightsaber duels.  The politics suck and I could really do without them as much as possibly and i could not give a frack about these clones.  They are just canon fodder for the Clone Wars and were in the prequels as a backdrop to the main story.  Sorry George but you are not going to me me like Wooden Stormtoopers who all sound like that Morrison guy you had redub Boba Fett in Episode V.

What did the Prequels do to 2 of the best film villains of all time ruin them horribly. All Lucas Did with Hayden Anakin/Vader, and Little snot Boba kid was make me hate the characters i had found cool in the original trilogy.

Sky, I still think you're missing the point of Johnny's question.  Okay, here goes.  I never saw The Clone Wars movie.  I thought it was a stupid idea and a waste of time.  I have yet to watch The Clone Wars cartoon.  Maybe I would if I would ever remember/not be working when it's on, but it's not high on my to-do list.  There.  I have no love for this series.  I have no reason to defend it.  I'm not defending it if I ask, like Johnny did, why, when you hate a show as much as you obviously hate this one, do you continue to watch it?  Once again, I'm not asking you this because I'm angry that you hate a show I love (because I don't love it) or confused that you hate the prequels (which I also don't love).  It simply does not make sense to us that you would continue to devote time to something that makes you that angry.  So again, finally, without a bone to pick or an axe to grind, I ask you:

If you hate this show, why not stop watching it?

Because i have the same dumb hope that i did with each prequel installment that they would get better, George would take critcisms over what went wrong etc.

Of course never going to happen right?

I have to sit back and endure my favorite space fantasy be destroyed by the man who created it and who i once respected, and now loathe and have contempt over.

Nothing Like being a fan who has the power to do nothing when something you love goes down in flames, Maybe i should have stopped being a fan in 1983 or perhaps i am a glutton for punishment? 

I don't know i don't pychoanalize it .

My  Hate position on  Star Wars and Lucas goes back to the point when Lucas announced the originals no longer existed, and he went about and did everything he could to bury them.

I don't have Star Wars oot in a good quality for dvd to show to my nephew and nieces, or children if i ever have any.  It is Lucas fault.  He does not deserve to be given a pass for destroying 3 classic films. And anyone who says he does is worthy to be regarded with the same Contempt That George Lucas is.

This place is really started to drain me.....95% of the new threads are all so bloody negative.

HotRod said:

This place is really started to drain me.....95% of the new threads are all so bloody negative.

 

it's called the ignore filter...

that makes it a lot easier,

since it's pretty much the same people with the same issues

over and over..

personally, i find it kind of funny though.. so i never ignore anyone,

even skyjedi....ha ha..

later

-1

HotRod said:

This place is really started to drain me.....95% of the new threads are all so bloody negative.

 

 by the way, i've started a original trilogy restoration board, where there is no bashing,

cursing, etc........ just discussion only, it's just starting, but it's got a different vibe going on..

not to say there won't be disagreements/discussions etc, but its a lot more civil..

pm me sometime if you're interested..

later

-1

negative1 said:

HotRod said:

This place is really started to drain me.....95% of the new threads are all so bloody negative.

 

it's called the ignore filter...

that makes it a lot easier,

since it's pretty much the same people with the same issues

over and over..

personally, i find it kind of funny though.. so i never ignore anyone,

even skyjedi....ha ha..

later

-1

 

 If I ignored them all, there'd be nothing left to read.

I'm just having a bad day at work, that's all!

I don't really mind the "negative" comments so much as I do the redundancy.  However, I take it in stride because a lot of the recent complaints are by relatively new posters who might not know that we beat that horse dead about three years ago!  ^_~

negative1 said:

 by the way, i've started a original trilogy restoration board, where there is no bashing,

cursing, etc........ just discussion only, it's just starting, but it's got a different vibe going on..

No bashing? Did negative one ban himself from posting altogether? How selfless that would be! :)

nice little episode about r2d2,

looks like a 2 parter..

that's always been one of my favorite characters...

interesting seeing how the assasin droids are....

and of course a lot more grievous (another favorite of mine)..

will be interesting to see how this storyline goes..

later

-1

They should Animate that Grivous Comic where he is a reptile as a flashback.

Funny how his lifepreserving suit is the prototype for darth vader.

I cannot exactly remember the comic exactly but did'nt he wipe out his own people through genocide. 

He was recruited by dooku and sidious and they purposely sabataged his ship so it would crash and make him near death so the sidious guy could test out that freakish biodroid tech.

If you Like Like Anakin and Obi wan's conflict with ventress you should really watch the second genddy series and read the comic obsession.  Their is also a neat duel with Her in the 2008 clone wars movie.

I must say the voice actress for ventress is quite good.  Actually in comparison to ther kids shows the voice acting is really top notch,  Even the music seems to fit the mood of the series where it was hard to get used to in the movie.

I have to admit that in the artoo episode the animation has gotten better their is fluidity of movement now and facial expression.  Also In some parts it was scary how good the animation was almost like live action,  they got artoos character right.  And anakin caring for artoo brought back fond memories of Luke from the oot and artoos adventures together.  Overall this episode i actually give a passing grade to as a harsh critic.  Even Grievous Looked like he was straight out of Revenge of the Sith.  I like the comraderie the series is going for and the humor both were noticeably lacking in the prequels.  I cannot believe I am saying this but Matt Lanters Anakin sounds better than Hayden.

The one thing that pulled me out of enjoyment and only for a couple moments were the " i have a bad feeling about this line" and the "roger roger"  Though it was funny when Grievous Chopped that roger roger dude in half with his hand.

Now all i need is for Jar Jar to die like in Robot Chicken.

Can they  do a bonus episode where Vader just cuts him in half.

My favorite of all time is seeing Jar Jar on Alderaan when it Gets blown up.  Man i almost died laughing at that adywan clip.

You feel bad for Bail but Boy did Jar Jar deserve it.

skyjedi2005 said:

Now all i need is for Jar Jar to die like in Robot Chicken.

Can they  do a bonus episode where Vader just cuts him in half.

My favorite of all time is seeing Jar Jar on Alderaan when it Gets blown up.  Man i almost died laughing at that adywan clip.

You feel bad for Bail but Boy did Jar Jar deserve it.

I hate to tell you but after next weeks episode episode 8 is about Jar Jar

Taken from list of Clone Wars Episodes:

 EDIT: To see the description of the Episode just highlight the field of text that is whited out, sorry.