The Force Unleashed is true to the F.U. part — Page 3

I'm not sure what that has to do with whether or not Star Wars is boring to watch, but, um... okay.  Sorry you feel that way.

I didnt mean to offend you folks by calling ANH boring

I meant that, for now-a-days standards, it's very slow paced, effects are terrible, and it has been made over to death with useless, unnecessary updates.

If GL is calling that the diffinitive version of Star Wars, then Im sorry.  It just doesnt cut it,  but this isn't the thread to discuss this.  I'm sorry for bringing it up.  :(

I am sure you didn't mean to offend anyone, and I am pretty sure you didn't. Not quite sure why you seem to think you did. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were hoping for some backlash for calling Star Wars boring that never came.

Plenty of people find Star Wars boring, I could care less. I find many things boring myself that other people find amazing. Though I think your using "now-a-days standards" to weigh a movie from the 1970s is more than a little unfair.

And I rather have to agree with Gaffer in that I fail to see how TFU and "hot" video game characters make Star Wars boring to watch. It is kind of like saying, "Laura's Croft is so f-ing hot, I am never going to watch E.T. again!"

No way dude, that is what guys like these days. If she had a little meat on her bones, then she wouldn't be making people say "Wow, Juno was so hot, I have a hard time watching Star Wars anymore." (By the way, 1977 Carrie Fisher was WAY hotter than Juno, oh yeah and I almost forget, she also has the added plus of being a real person.)

Mutton chops and side burns boring?  No way! They define excitement, all good things in this life contain mutton chops or sideburns in some capacity.

Yeah!  Like hot women!  Wait...

I played through the game a few weeks ago and I thought it was really lack luster. As the name implies it's all about force powers so you run around attack with a force power wait for your powers to replenish and repeat. The lightsaber is completely worthless unless you are fighting the standard pawn enemies. I gave up upgrading the combo's half way through the game since there pointless. The fighting and overall game play were incredibly repetitive. Also charging full price for a game that has nothing other than a single player campaign (Xbox360) is ridiculous. I really thought the new technologies sounded promising but they were executed poorly. The story was alright but its still a video game story. The fact is, I think it could have been much cooler to see all that in the movies but GL really scrwed up the PT so we get a a terrible game to play with a half-a$$ed story to fill all the gaps. Glad I just rented it.

What i find really suprising is people still fall for Lucas pig in a poke every time.

He is still Raping peoples Childhoods, and crapping all over their memories.

I mean seriously First a totally meh game like force unleashed and now instead of a real kotor III we get a bad mmo.

If they never really intended to do part 3 and are just lying, i think Bioware should go back to working on making Mass effect 2 as awesome as possible and fuck lucasharts.

skyjedi2005 said:

He is still Raping peoples Childhoods, and crapping all over their memories.

I'm sorry to pick out this point, but I've never understood that argument. As far as I'm concerned that's not really possible.

What George Lucas is "raping" and "crapping" on are great works of art. My memories and childhood are static, unchanging moments in the past (ideally).

rcb said:

GhostAlpha26 said:

I played through the game a few weeks ago and I thought it was really lack luster. As the name implies it's all about force powers so you run around attack with a force power wait for your powers to replenish and repeat. The lightsaber is completely worthless unless you are fighting the standard pawn enemies. I gave up upgrading the combo's half way through the game since there pointless. The fighting and overall game play were incredibly repetitive. Also charging full price for a game that has nothing other than a single player campaign (Xbox360) is ridiculous. I really thought the new technologies sounded promising but they were executed poorly. The story was alright but its still a video game story. The fact is, I think it could have been much cooler to see all that in the movies but GL really scrwed up the PT so we get a a terrible game to play with a half-a$$ed story to fill all the gaps. Glad I just rented it.

 

 

 i got mine on the psp and one of its options aside from single player was playing historic lightsaber duels or events. For example, one of the first ones was the battle between anakin and dooku on grevious's ship. another was in the geonosis arena. idk if the 360 verision had that.

No unfortuantely, but I wouldn't rule it out on coming on DLC, in fact I already know they are working on other missions.

LordVader said:

No unfortuantely, but I wouldn't rule it out on coming on DLC, in fact I already know they are working on other missions.

 

More money for more repetition...Ill pass.

Tiptup said:

skyjedi2005 said:

He is still Raping peoples Childhoods, and crapping all over their memories.

I'm sorry to pick out this point, but I've never understood that argument. As far as I'm concerned that's not really possible.

What George Lucas is "raping" and "crapping" on are great works of art. My memories and childhood are static, unchanging moments in the past (ideally).

Its relative, how you remember something 5 years after you initially experienced it and after 25 years are not necessarily going to be the same or unchanged. Especially when that memory is of a film that has gone through countless alterations.

It is not about how you remember the movie, it is about how you remember what the movie meant to you and the times you had with it as a kid. No matter what, my memories of playing Star Wars with my friends as a kid, or the countless times I watched the films and loved them, or how much money I spent on everything with the name "Star Wars" on it when I was a kid, go on unchanged. That is why the term "raped my childhood" is absurd as Tip pointed out. The movies are altered, but my childhood is untouched, even if I don't remember every single detail of those childhood experiences. Even if I have a hard time remembering the film exactly as it was before the alterations (which actually isn't hard, I have only seen the 2007 SEs once or twice each, and have never seen the 04 SEs at all), it still has no effect on my childhood.

If Lucas were to invent a time machine, and go back to my childhood years and do something to all my Star Wars toys and then do unspeakable things to me so that I could never enjoy my childhood again, then I could claim that the man raped my childhood, but until he goes that far and does this to one of us, I think it is a stupid, overly hyperbolic term to use.

I'm not an old bat like some here (no offense) but, I think theres a difference between the memory of what your experience was with something and a memory of what that something was. Someone may remember playing with a certain toy when they were a child and the things they did with it and how much fun it was to them but it doesn't mean they remember everything about the toy exactly. For example I remember riding a bike as a kid and racing against other kids in the street but the heck if I remember the color scheme on it. So now if you apply that to the movies, its as if you kept that bike for 30+ years but every 5 years or so you re-painted it, you changed the wheels on it and added new accessories to it. Now 30 years later you have that same bike but because of all the changes it has undergone you don't necessarily remember it exactly like it was when you first started riding it. You obviously still remember the experiences you had when you were a kid riding it, but now if you were to go ride (you'd like goofy) it might be a different ride than you remember.  I'm not saying Tip is wrong and Sky is right I just wanted to give a different perspective on this.

But at the very least, you know the bike is different in all those ways, if you choose to change it, it'd be your fault, if your mom or dad or sibling changed it for you, you'd have the right to be pissed, but even if you didn't have the bike any longer at all, you still have the memories of the races, those can't be repainted. That is what Tip and I mean, your coming at this from a different angle that doesn't relate to what we are saying. The past is static and cannot be changed regardless of what the future brings.

But I do get what you are saying GA.

C3PX said:

But at the very least, you know the bike is different in all those ways, if you choose to change it, it'd be your fault, if your mom or dad or sibling changed it for you, you'd have the right to be pissed, but even if you didn't have the bike any longer at all, you still have the memories of the races, those can't be repainted. That is what Tip and I mean, your coming at this from a different angle that doesn't relate to what we are saying. The past is static and cannot be changed regardless of what the future brings.

But I do get what you are saying GA.

That may be Sky's point, the films were not altered by him but by GL. Granted GL has the rights but it wasn't something sky changed.

The memory of a presons individual experience doesnt change but some people watch the movie to experience those "times" again (nostalgia) and when its not how you remember it, you may not get that same *insert emotion* as you did. Your pulled out of the experience because of the changes. Thats nit picking because you can say theres always variables and you can still watch them as they were (although in low quality transfers).

I understand how my point does not dismiss your point C3 or Tips' and that it is not inline with the original argument.  I was stating more for a different point of view..and we all  know that "many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view" :p

Bottom line though, its generally agreed upon that the current version of the Unaltered Original Trilogy has not been released in an "acceptable" format for this generation. And you can either complain about the issue and mostly like not get far or follow in the footsteps of the many forum members who chose not to just accept with what they were given.

GhostAlpha26 said:

Its relative, how you remember something 5 years after you initially experienced it and after 25 years are not necessarily going to be the same or unchanged. Especially when that memory is of a film that has gone through countless alterations.

I know that memory is subjective in practice, but I was speaking in terms of the "ideal" past (as C3PX sort of explained). Naturally if you had a wonderful childhood and you learn that your loving father was, in fact, a child-molesting, psychopathic murderer, that will obviously sour your memories by making you question the reality of the past. But, I don't think the changes to Star Wars or George Lucas' weird behavior is any reason to question or alter my enjoyment of a piece of art he made before all of that. So, if people are having their childhoods "raped" by what George Lucas has done, I guess they're free to do so, but I see no direct rational behavior in that. I can understand it, but it's overly negative in the sense that it does not accurately reflect reality as best as possible. Star Wars was an awesome movie in its time and I see nothing that has happened since which can make me question that fact.

I will quote Tolkien and Lord of the Rings might not be exact coming from memory.  Gimli and Legolas have a discussion and Gimnli Says " Memory is not what the heart desires"

I want the originals preserved and given a real restoration.  To me the gout and 25 year old memories just don't cut it.