skyjedi2005 said:I choose the Canon of the novel the good that men do over These are the voyages because that episode was crap and moore should be ashamed.
I share these feeling with you. The good that men do is a good novel and These are the voyages is a FU to the fans of not just Enterprise but all of Star Trek.
skyjedi2005 said:
The Real Pocket Books Continuity which tries to be in Line with the films and tv series and is still not canon, well at least it was not canon until JJ got his hands on things.
skyjedi2005 also said:
I'm not jumping to conclusions But i imagine Hunter6 is going to say that the screenwriters of the jj pic are going to plagiarize stuff from the pocket books novels. This might sit okay with cbs paramount who own pocket books, but what about the work for hire authors getting their work stolen? Like if they Lazily cobble together other peoples work they should not have a job in writing at all.
Well, JJ said that every thing is canon including the novels. I really thing he is saying that to protect himself from Fans yelling about the non-canon things in his film by saying that there is no non-cannon. I never thought about it as protect from being sued too, but now I do. By say that every thing is canon including the novels, JJ maybe trying to make the novels apart of trek history which cbs paramount owns, by do this JJ takes power from the authors suing him. Now, JJ and his Writer could say that they did not plagiarize, but were useing trek history.
One is the thing I hate about this new Star Trek film is that the idea of the young adventures of the enterprise crew was thought of before and Rejection back in 1991. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_First_Adventure
Star Trek 6 was going to be Star Trek: The First Adventure about the young adventures of the enterprise crew which JJ's Star Trek is now about . The thing is that Paramount Pictures, Gene Roddenberry and the regular Star Trek actors hated the idea which means Leonard Nimoy hated the idea of the young adventures of the enterprise crew, now Leonard Nimoy is in JJ's Star Trek which is the same idea. I question how much is JJ and his writers going to plagiarize from Star Trek: The First Adventure.
I do think some borrowing is o.k. like star trek: Enterprise useing the concept Enterprise design from the Star Trek The First Adventure idea to based the NX-o1 on.
USS Enterprise concept from Star Trek The First Adventure:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Star_Trek_The_First_Adventure%2C_USS_Enterprise_concept.jpg
The thing is that the writers of the new star trek (Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci) have cross the line of just borrowing to flat out stealing in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts:_The_Clonus_Horror#The_Island_suit
Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci should have been laughed out and kick out of hollywood for stealing so much from a movie so bad it was on MST3k. But NO!, they are handed Transformers, Star Trek and now Superman.
skyjedi2005 said:
Lucas and Spielberg both have allegedly commited grievous Plagiarism and got away with it.
It can never be proven in court but Star Wars is probably the biggest piece of plagiarism ever produced. And this not according to me these are not my theories.
Many unauthorized Biographer or Website has discussed argued these points.
Most of the source authors Lucas mined for Star Wars were Alive at the time the film was made and received no compensation. People Like Frank Herbert and Isaac Asimov. alas for the passed away authors who could not protect their works like Edgar Rice Burroughs. Not Sure if E.E. Smith was alive at the time but his works were plundered wholesale as well. A case could be Made of Liberally Borrowing from the works of Professor J.R.R. Tolkien Like Lord of the Rings and The hobbit specifically.
He borrowed from Kurosawa but that score was settled when he helped raise the money to get Kagemusha made. Just like he supposedly gave money to the JCF or Joseph Campbell Foundation. Joe Campbell's book the hero with a thousand faces is also Very much used in Star Wars.
I love Star wars... but, yes it is one of the biggest piece of plagiarism/borrowing ever produced.
I think the prequels are more so then the OT. (To me, the prequels are like Ben-Hur meets Metropolis... but, badly)
the Lucas of today is a picker of the dead too.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_sources_and_analogues#Literature :
Since Asimov's death in 1992, the Star Wars cinematic universe has gained new Asimov-esque elements
The thing which pisses me off about Lucas is that Lucas takes from many things, but then he is so sue happy on others which takes things from star wars or seem like they did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica#Battlestar_Galactica_.281978.29
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lucas+sues&btnG=Search
Lucas is smart in his plagiarism/borrowing, he plagiarism/borrowing from many things and mix them, unlike Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci.
A telling thing about today's Lucas and Spielberg is that they are friends with J. J. Abrams, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci.
