skyjedi2005 said: Indiana Jones fans and star wars fans had their childhoods raped by Lucas and Spielberg, lol. Just wait til next year when Gene Roddenberry rolls in his grave and the trekkies childhoods are raped by jj abrams.

Once again skyjedi2005, I share your feeling on things.

JJ Abrams is pulling a Lucas.

JJ Abrams and the writers of the new star trek (Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman) are friends with both Lucas and Spielberg.

JJ Abrams even met with Lucas to talk Trek (not Roddenberry's family or good people who work on and know star trek).

I am both a Star Wars:OOT fan and Star Trek:TOS fan. I'm in a double hell.

Just look at this (the ibridge from JJ's Star Trek):

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4164654080/tt0796366

Trek fans rip on Star Trek: Enterprise, but Star Trek: Enterprise designs was way more true to the canon of trek.

The writers of JJ's Star Trek (Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman) wrote The Island which stole from The Clonus Horror which was on Mystery Science Theater 3000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts:_The_Clonus_Horror

Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman are known for bad writing and steeling some movies.

Also The JJ's star trek movie has a so-called fan site, but is really a shill just like TF.N called trekmovie.com

I have been banned from both TF.N and trekmovie.com just for saying I did not like things about the star wars prequels or the JJ's star trek movie.