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Josh, have you posted this issue in the "Bug Reports" section? Maybe Jay can help you out.
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adywan,
A couple issues regarding the Cloud City processing vane. You say, "As for the vane it is a bit of a design flaw. I think that Luke was supposed to have reached there through the long tunnel but they put the support pole in the wrong position on the matte which caused confusion."
I knew I'd seen a cutaway in a book somewhere, so I did some looking around and found this:
You can see that the long tunnel is actually a tram-tunnel probably intended to carry cargo back and forth from the city to the processing plant in the vane. The carbonite chamber is at the very top, and it seems to me that the lighted tube Luke walks through is all within the upper part of that vane, and not in the support arm. That should save you some trouble repainting the matte.
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Also, when Luke exits the tunnel, a large gate closes behind him, but when we see the same tunnel entrance from a different angle a few seconds later, the gate is open.
Just to play devil's advocate here, but are these cutaway books really canon or are they skirting the line towards EU? The reason I say this is because in Empire, when the Imperial Officer drags Leia through the door and Luke follows into the darkness, he goes through the door from the main white hallways of Cloud City proper and is suddenly funneled up an elevator into the freeze chamber. I don't see anything in this cutaway that would provide walking access back to Cloud City hallways and I just don't think Leia's captors would lead their prisoners into a dead end, which they clearly don't because a few minutes later they are back in the white hallways. The whole thing doesn't make sense, I guess.
Jumping right into FX work, huh? No rest for the...well, you're far from wicked, I would say. ;) No caravan holiday, then? Heh.
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adywan said:
...then jump right into the FX work.
Wow. Just wow. I thought the color (or colour as it may be) correction was still ongoing with quite some more work left, but if FX work is impending, all the better!
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Can someone PM me with the posts, Seeing is beliving......
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Josh, have you posted this issue in the "Bug Reports" section? Maybe Jay can help you out.
Hello everyone,
I discovered the episode 4 by adywan a while back, and just got news of this project. I have to say the screens of the 1st post are incredible and i'm looking foreward to seing this one. Also, i was wondering how close is the release of episode 5? I realize the magnitude of the works to be done, but mayne a general idea of when is known and would like to know aswell, so thanks to let me know.
I hope i'm not offending anyone or a rule by asking this, if so, please accept my apologies in advance.
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Gurida said:Hello everyone,
I discovered the episode 4 by adywan a while back, and just got news of this project. I have to say the screens of the 1st post are incredible and i'm looking foreward to seing this one. Also, i was wondering how close is the release of episode 5? I realize the magnitude of the works to be done, but mayne a general idea of when is known and would like to know aswell, so thanks to let me know.
I hope i'm not offending anyone or a rule by asking this, if so, please accept my apologies in advance.
welcome to the forum.
ESB:R is at least another year away yet, i'm afraid
Hooray for SFX work! I can't wait to see what you come up with to fix all of these ridiculous things we've pointed out in the last few months...
From movie mistakes to logical flaws to continuity errors to things no human should have ever noticed about any film, its nice to know that this edit is in the hands of someone who takes every suggestion seriously and is looking only to tweak an already great movie into perfection.
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its like correcting perfection, so much so the dvd will actually glow with some sort of holy aura...
ben_danger said:its like correcting perfection, so much so the dvd will actually glow with some sort of holy aura...
The first sound I made this morning was a snort of laughter. Thanks!
ben_danger said:its like correcting perfection, so much so the dvd will actually glow with some sort of holy aura...
Let's just hope perfecting ESB won't have the same sort of effect as dividing by zero.
adywan said:Gurida said:Hello everyone,
I discovered the episode 4 by adywan a while back, and just got news of this project. I have to say the screens of the 1st post are incredible and i'm looking foreward to seing this one. Also, i was wondering how close is the release of episode 5? I realize the magnitude of the works to be done, but mayne a general idea of when is known and would like to know aswell, so thanks to let me know.
I hope i'm not offending anyone or a rule by asking this, if so, please accept my apologies in advance.
welcome to the forum.
ESB:R is at least another year away yet, i'm afraid
Thanks, i'm glad to be here & thanks for the fast reply.
Another year is not that bad considering the amount of work you have to do. So keep up the good work, its appreciated. Also, i whishe to express more encouragement than these few words(keep up the good work), but i'm afraid that will be all i can say, english is not my native tongue, at least now you now that i mean more than those few words.
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Can some one PM me with ADYs posts that are important. Thanks
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Josh, if you are having problems with the forum software you need to post information about it in the bugs thread. if you are using Internet Explorer try using firefox instead. i'm using that and having no problems at all
Yes, we keep giving him suggestions (I even PM'd him), but I don't know if he's done anything yet. ;) Come on, Josh, there are lots of things you could do. :)
Alternatively, did you accidentally put ady or others on your "ignore" list perchance? Might be worth a look.
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The post display issue is caused by pasting text from Word into the post editor. Word generates a lot of garbage HTML that the editor is preserving on input. That garbage HTML is then messing up the way the post is displayed in your browser.
This is only an issue in IE, oddly enough. Firefox and Safari are fine based on my testing.
I've edited the offending posts on the last couple pages of the topic, so they should display normally now. All I can ask for the moment until I can find a fix is that people not write up their posts in Word first.
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Thanks Jay - I can see all the posts on pages 122, 123, and 124 perfectly today! :)
Adywan - Good luck with all the FX alterations you're about to start already! I'm sure they'll end up great.
Hello there!
I haven't read all 125 pages of this thread but I want to just make a couple of suggestions....that may be already taken into account.
1: IMPORTANT!: Someone posted in the original suggestions list that the Star Destroyer should be shown arriving in Bespin. DO NOT DO THIS unless it is AFTER the reveal of Vader at the dinner. Might sound a bit of a no-brainer, and teaching you to suck Lucas's grandmothers eggs, but I felt it quite strongly to make the point!
2: Revised Hoth base explosion. You might be doing this already.
3: EXECUTOR: When the Emperor is talking to Vader, maybe have a cut to Palpatine's office on Coruscant (if that's where he indeed is), with a little holo of Vader kneeling, and Vader's voice distorted a la holo transmissions.
4: Make the Space Slug look like less of a sock puppet! "I never a get a spaceship, never, i never get annyfing..."
5: BESPIN: Maybe change the R2 smoke screen to the Napalm he uses in ROTS. Just a thought...
6: ROTS music (Anakin Sith Eyes on Mustafar - DANN.....DANN....DANN..DAAAAAN, you might know what I mean!) when Vader reveals who he is. Oh, good one would be to make Luke's fall look a bit more like he's trying to commit suicide rather than just "Hey, jumping down this bottomless pit is a really good idea coz I'll be sucked into a garbage chute. I've only just begun my Jedi training but I just know I'll be alright!" and Vader's slightly lame reaction...almost looks like he's going "Oh FFS..."....maybe Luke should close his eyes a la Ben Kenobi on DS1, and Vader should reach a bit more or kneel on the deck, uselessly trying to catch him. Different POV.
7: END: The last shot of them looking out the window towards the galaxy, has always grated me. To be able to view a galaxy at that scale and detail you would have to be THOUSANDS of LIGHT YEARS away. Maybe that's the point, but then you see the whole fleet turn and disappear as the credits fade in....but they're turning away from the galaxy, and its not even in sight! Are they heading for the EU!?!? I dont really know what to suggest, as space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is, etc.
To be honest I cant believe I'm even thinking about changes to the greatest SW, even Sci-fi, film. But, if somebody as talented as you is doing it, I'm fairly unworried!
As an aside, are you a disgruntled ILM employee? This is far better than walking into the office with an Uzi!
EDIT: OK I spent the last couple of hours scanning this thread, all kudos on your decision on the music. And someone already said almost word-for-word what I said about the slug muppet!
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Thanks Jay, I can see now. I like IE, but iff it keeps doing it, I will change.
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Might i suggest a clean pair of underwear, now the panic is erm, over?
And welcome darth_scourge.
You mean this underwear, I found it in your closet
You need to lay off those picnics
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darth_scourge said:Hello there!
6: ROTS music (Anakin Sith Eyes on Mustafar - DANN.....DANN....DANN..DAAAAAN, you might know what I mean!) when Vader reveals who he is. Oh, good one would be to make Luke's fall look a bit more like he's trying to commit suicide rather than just "Hey, jumping down this bottomless pit is a really good idea coz I'll be sucked into a garbage chute. I've only just begun my Jedi training but I just know I'll be alright!" and Vader's slightly lame reaction...almost looks like he's going "Oh FFS..."....maybe Luke should close his eyes a la Ben Kenobi on DS1, and Vader should reach a bit more or kneel on the deck, uselessly trying to catch him. Different POV.
I always felt like Luke's fall was more his way of saying "I'd rather die than join you". He just happen to get lucky and fall into a chute instead of falling to his death. And Vader's reaction was perfect, imo. Almost like "Damn, I thought for sure he'd join me instead of killing himself".
lordjedi said:darth_scourge said:Hello there!
6: ROTS music (Anakin Sith Eyes on Mustafar - DANN.....DANN....DANN..DAAAAAN, you might know what I mean!) when Vader reveals who he is. Oh, good one would be to make Luke's fall look a bit more like he's trying to commit suicide rather than just "Hey, jumping down this bottomless pit is a really good idea coz I'll be sucked into a garbage chute. I've only just begun my Jedi training but I just know I'll be alright!" and Vader's slightly lame reaction...almost looks like he's going "Oh FFS..."....maybe Luke should close his eyes a la Ben Kenobi on DS1, and Vader should reach a bit more or kneel on the deck, uselessly trying to catch him. Different POV.I always felt like Luke's fall was more his way of saying "I'd rather die than join you". He just happen to get lucky and fall into a chute instead of falling to his death. And Vader's reaction was perfect, imo. Almost like "Damn, I thought for sure he'd join me instead of killing himself".
That's exactly what it is, but i thought as the opportunity is now here to analyse and have someone possibly change a 99.99% perfect film, its just one thought I had in many!
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