negative1 said:Jaiman Tuckuh said:Ya know... the movie studios seem to be a lot less vindictive and vengeful than the music studios. Perhaps movie studios don't feel as threatened, because movies take a lot more time to download. HD, in particular, and there's the storage & playback issues. Perhaps also, because you can rent movies, and tv broadcasters play everything, while radio typically only plays certain cuts of music... Also, people buy as much music as they can afford. But they buy as many dvds as they have space for...
well, with broadband access getting more common, FIOS, etc... it doesn't take that long
to get a popular movie for me (a few hours by bittorrent, and less than hour with rapidshare
links)....for the FULL DVD ... maybe longer for dual layer .....
HD rips take maybe a day or 2 [ok, i have 20M down] for the 9 gig WMV/MKV .... and for
the HD DVD/BLU RAY rips maybe 4-6 days, if its seeded well .... so i don't think that for me,
time is not a deterrant...
Dude, you seriously need to take another look at Usenet. Those same things can all be done in a matter of hours, at the most, from Usenet. A Blu-ray rip can especially be had in about 4 hours at 20 M down. No need to wait 4-6 days. If I had to wait that long for an HD copy of anything, I'd just order it online. I think it would get to me faster that way.
Lucasfilm lost the second any version of star wars SE/and the prequels showed up
on HD, i don't know what came first, the german versions, wookiegroomer, etc...
but as soon as those were free..... the game was over ..... maybe that's why people
don't think that the war is already over, before it has even started?
They've only lost to people like us. Talk to Joe Schmoe on the street. They have no idea how to download anything outside of using some lame p2p program like Kazaa. And then they'll complain about how every time they download a copy, it's not what it said it was (big surprise) and now their machine is infected with viruses and trojans.
Besides all that, most of us actually own the DVDs of any fan edits we download. It's so nice that you don't actually buy any of your DVDs. Way to go there Mr. Pirate.
For the record, I believe the HD broadcasts of Star Wars are what came first. WG simply took the audio from the US broadcast and put it into the German video. The German video was used because it wasn't compressed even further like the US broadcasters tend to do.
who's going to buy Star Wars SE on blu-ray, when there are at least 5 or 6 versions
already out there, available completely for for free, i think i have them all, 720p
versions, 1080p versions, mkv format, wmv format, .TS format etc, etc.
The SE? Probably very few people here. The OOT? I'll be the first one in line. I would rather have a completely remastered OOT in HD direct from LFL than a fan edit. That's one of the points of this site. Not only are we suppose to own the original of any movies we get, but we're also suppose to get rid of any fan edits we have once an official version comes out. Or do you think everyone still has their fan edit copies of the various versions of Blade Runner now that an excellent boxed set has been released?
there is no point in releasing Star Wars SE on bluray
Of course there is. Again, just because we all have HD copies of Star Wars does not mean that Joe Schmoe Star Wars fan on the street has a copy. A Blu-ray copy of Star Wars is exactly what a lot of SciFi and Star Wars fans are waiting for. Those same people don't want a fan edit or they don't know how to get their hands on one or they don't want to take the time.
once again, why should they bother ? we've got yet another HD version of star wars
ready to be released shortly with color correction and fixes .............. and i'm sure its
just a matter of time, before more people work on de-SE ing these HD versions, just
like the plethora of fanedits that exist already for the OT now, there will be just as
many edits of the HD versions, and we will never need to go back to Lucasfilm ..
And at some point, it's comments like these that are going to get this site shut down. Seriously dude. You're sitting here telling people that LFL shouldn't bother releasing any HD versions of Star Wars because we've got all we need. You're telling LFL not to waste their time because we won't buy it anyway. You're telling LFL that we have no need for them any longer.
Newsflash: Lucas still owns Star Wars. Everything we do here is meant as a stop gap toward something official from LFL. If you don't get that, then you seriously need your head examined. The preservations have been allowed to exist to this point because most everyone has bought at least one version of Star Wars somewhere along the line. People with the LDs have the LD preservations. People bought the 04 sets and are now getting color corrected copies from someone else. Some of those things might be a legal gray area, but they seem to be acceptable to LFL.
There's no reason to believe that if we just kept sharing the HD versions and spreading them around further and further and really started eating into LFL's profits by getting these into the hands of people who would ordinarily just wait for a Blu-ray disc, that LFL won't shut us down in a heartbeat. As a perfect example, distribution of the original "The Phantom Edit" was nearly shut down because people were handing out VHS tapes all over the place. Lucas took that as a direct hit to his own distribution and got it, at least temporarily, shut down.
LFL has sent C&Ds in the past for fan edits. There's nothing to stop them from sending a C&D for these people like you keep acting like they're not going to buy an official release.
the cat is already out of the bag, and has been for quite some time now....
[i'm deliberately not talking about the 35mm transfer project for other reasons
obviously]..
<sarcasm> Oh yeah, you're being so secretive about that transfer. </sarcasm>