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negative1
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Why was the '04 DVD set such a botched release?
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Date created
8-Sep-2008, 3:36 AM
seventiesfilmnut said:

Negative1 - sorry to post this but I have to say I find your attitude to those that feel we deserve a high quality release of the original trilogy a tad perplexing!

YOU may be perfectly happy with the SE DVDs or the GOUT releases, but I am not, nor are those that care about quality resentations of a rather significant slice of film history!

 

 

alright, let's try this again, because we seem to run into this conundrum every single

time it is brought up:

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1)  for the last time, i feel that there is no slippage in the quality of releases from Lucasfilm,

why? because i am comparing what we have now to what was released on laserdisc,

and to me there is no difference

2) in fact, with the SE versions, on laserdisc, and DVD the quality is very high already...

with the new DVD's having the highest quality..

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i don't know why people think the quality of Lucasfilm is slipping when, they put

out amazing boxsets on laserdisc with THX, remastered, and on CAV, on an SD

tv they are excellent......................... but what do we constantly hear, about how

bad Lucasfilm is, how their products are shoddy etc..

 

when in fact there is only 1 issue, with 1 boxset, and that's about the GOUT..

ok, next..

 

I don't understand why you make these comments on ORIGINALtrilogy.com, AND are currently in the process of trying to transfer the actual ESB film... and yet you appear to NOT care about those that DO want a decent transfer of the originals - don't get where you are coming from mate in other words Lol! If you're perfectly happy with the GOUT then why are you bothering looking into ways of transferring an ORIGINAL print of ESB? I certainly hope - by the way - it's successful and applaud your efforts into looking into this.

 

 

i've been coming to this board for several years, but was never involved, are you telling me

that all those people that did transfers, had projects and edits worked in vain?

 

are you saying you're not happy with any of the transfers, that you can get for free?

 

and on top of that with the completely free HD versions of the SE that blow away anything

else, that you can't even buy , no one cares about those?

 

my intent when i came to this board, was to find out about what was going on in

this community, (i didn't really have internet access or high speed before), and when

i came here, all i heard was complaining, griping, etc (and i still see it, like this thread)..

 

yes, there are people that take action (adywan, all the faneditors, sound editors, and

moderators), but what about the rest of you? there are so many great ideas on this

board ..........   one that caught my eye was the 8mm transfers, which i ended up getting

for free..  honestly that is still the most amazing thing i have just seen here, and it completely

blew me away ... well i didn't know anything about film, but someone mentioned 16mm, and

then there was a thread about 35mm film too... around that time, someone mentioned

there were some auctions going on ebay........... well i figured someone would take action,

but i didn't hear back from anyone, so that's why i got involved... this was for star wars,

by the way, and i lost that auction by a close amount...

 

i thought it would be a great looking at everyone elses ideas about what could be

done if we got one, around this time, i got a 32  widescreen tv, and thought, well

wouldn't it be nice to watch these movies in high definition...   and then the ESB 35mm

auction came up, again, i couldn't find anybody interested ....... and i was determined

not to let it get away, and ended up winning it..

 

so for me, it was more of a technical challenge, and interest in film, etc, and having

a project to do, and that's why i got involved...

 

it has nothing to do with me being unsatisfied with previous releases, or complaints

against Lucasfilm, etc... like i said, i have about 4 different HD versions of the SE,

and with the Wookiegroomer versions, i'm incredibly happy.... well to add to that

Adywan's HD releases are only going to get better.... so why shouldn't i be happy

about it..

 

that's what puzzles me about this board, no one really seems to care too much

about the fact that these HD versions are out there....yeah, i know they're SE,

but whats more important to you? having them in HD, or having them in perfectly

acceptable SD format for the OT, with the many, many excellent transfers people

have made already?

 

 

It's just some of your comments directed at those who are not happy with the 2004/2006 release I find... odd.

 

yeah, well i find it odd, that people refuse to confirm the availability of all the hard work

of people on this board already available..

 

The GOUT was NOT a high quality release, and did NOT give us what we wanted - hence this website and others similar to it. I agree it is probabky the best transfer of the original ld masters, but NOT of the 3 original films which is the whole point.

 

Cheers,

 

- 7FN

 

 well, i think this website has done an excellent job of educating people, giving them

tons of technical resources (which i hardly see anyone else using, like the excellent

scripts, and details on how to fix the GOUT versions by yourself) .....  

 

i just don't know why people don't want to be proactive, and do things for themselves,

when it is being handed to you for free, and you're given all the information to handle

it here, especially with the technical help, and references that are available..

 

i barely knew anything about avisynth before i came here, and now i'm modifying

the GOUT stabilisation script ....  i haven't done much video editing or conversion,

but working with Adywans HD files, i know how to convert multiple HD sources

back and forth from MKV, to .EDO for -> HD DVD formats...... i didn't know anything

about film scanning, but know i know how to make 2k previews, and learn the

basics of color correction ...... i've learned about sound sources, from goodmusician...

i've learned about dead formats like the CED versions, and now i have a player,

and the movies in that format ... i didn't know much about video capture, but

people are there to help me learn the ins and outs of analog and digital capture...

 

this board has been the greatest audio/video resource i have ever seen,

there is not one question (ok maybe one about VC1 codecs, help me!) that

hasn't been answered, or that someone hasn't figured out how to do, or

made a suggestion..... i could never have dreamt that i could contribute or

do anything useful like this before  .... it was only after watching adywan's

ANH:R edit that my eyes were opened to the technical capabilities that are

available now, and to the people on this board with all the other projects

going on...

 

i'll say it again, and i'll keep saying it everytime someone complains..

 

STOP being so sedate, TAKE matters into your own hands, BE PROACTIVE

 

everyone here is willing to help you with whatever your questions/problems

are, why is it so hard to actually take the step, and do something about your

issues by yourself?  

 

i took that step, and now look where we might be heading...

 

i can only imagine what someone on this board that comes after me that is more skilled, has more

money, more time, and more dedication than i will ever have, will do for the star wars community,

because it will blow you away.....

 

i'm just one casual fan, that decided to take a step into an interesting technical project,

and wanted to see where it went...

 

by the way, i can't even begin to explain how meaningful it was to me, to get the

Star Wars reel 6, and examine the frames for the preview scans.... it really was

an amazing step back into time..

 

i hope some of you will feel that  way someday, instead of constantly complaining

about the present, and ignoring what the future could be like..if you would just take that first step...

 

later

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