Gaffer Tape said:Good Lord, man, I wasn't "picking" on you or your post in any way. I was just making what I thought was a humorous observation about the way something was written. I actually hadn't gotten around to addressing the information you presented to me yet, but that doesn't mean I wasn't going to do so at some point after I'd thought about the matter enough to say something that someone else hadn't already addressed. I believe you assume too much. Also, yes, I made a generalizing statement.
thanks gaffer for responding politely... yes, i have strong feelings (ha ha) or forcelike abilities
to tick people off, it's a curse...[hmmm........or maybe its a gift.... i lean to the darkside].....
let me back up and say , you caught me off guard, because i felt you genuinely wanted information,
and i did want to present a lot of information that i found to be 'interesting'...
and i felt you did take it rather offhandedly, which i mistook for your not taking it seriously..
now, its my turn to apologize, and say forgive me for retorting in the manner that i did,
as i feel that some people (not all), bait PT/EU sympathsizers here for the amusement
of others......
the star wars galaxy is huge, and not everyone wants to explore it, yes i realize that...
thats where imagination comes into play...... (by the way, i am Christian, so i would
think religous preconceptions, and notions also come into play and bias here)...
a lot of things about the force do seem mystical, and simplistic, and if you base your
ideas of it based on:
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1) just 'star wars' - you really don't have a lot to go on... you see people being choked, ben
altering peoples mentality, people disappearing after getting killed, a person who is able to deflect
bolts without seeing them, and someone making an impossible shot...................really what else is
there?
2) both SW and ESB - you get a little better notion, by seeing yodas object manipulation, another
force ghost, luke levitating objects, his lightsaber, and jumping superhigh...darth vader also
uses the force to throw objects, sense luke, and of course more mentions of the darkside
3) all three OT films - you get to discovers luke's ability to manipulate objects has gotten
more powerful, you see a lot more of the darkside, etc....
anyways, its such a limited subset of the full view of the force...
but if that's all you know, and are happy to expand your view, in your mind, that's fine....
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the prequels changed all that.................and before the prequels, the EU changed
it a lot more........................................................ why wouldn't some fans want to
know more about this mysterious force? that's why to me, all those details,
explanations, and ideas EXPANDED the original, and i was fine with it....
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what the prequels did for me, was finalize some points about where the force
came from, and we saw a lot more practical/physical effects of it..................
i never had a problem with it then, and i still dont'....
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now, for the people that say, they can accept some aspects of the force or
another, and try to second guess, or shoehorn what their ideas of the 'force'
should be into the Lucas universe is a very difficult excercise....
i'm not sure that there can ever be an adequate description of the 'force' that
will please 'purists' of the OT, since all the explanations have been made already..
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please continue with your analysis,
i for one AM intrugued on what others think.....
i read 'splinter of a minds eye' when it first came out, which is why the idea
of other 'force' objects, and explanations were not that hard for me to accept,
since those ideas were tangential to the latter movies.....and yes, i realized
the darth vader / family stuff continuity was pretty much shot, when empire came
out...............but by then, i was also reading the comic books, and the newspaper
strip...... so there was always other conflicting information out there..
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sorry for the rambling post..
i hope i made some sense..
later
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