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Post #327902

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skyjedi2005
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Who's worse, TFN or the official site, starwars.com?
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Date created
25-Aug-2008, 3:48 AM

Who gives a shit what Lucas says about Return of the Jedi.

That is not his movie it is Richard Marquand's, besides the bad ideas in the film like death star II and ewoks anything that was good about the movie was because of Marquand and Lawrence Kasden who actually wrote the movie.

People talk about how bad it was to replace Shaw because he was dead, what about wrecking a movie you did not even write or direct.

Empire is superior also because it was not written or directed by Lucas.

He had a lot of help on that first movie as well. The best dialogue in the film was Written By Gloria Katz and Willard Huyck.

Also less yes men and a great producer in Gary Kurtz.

I hate the Rick Mcallum Yes men era that began with the Awful radioland murders and flop Young Indiana Jones chronicles.

Which had some great episodes despite Lucas and Mcallums involvement.

You could sort of say the yes men began with Howard Kazanjian on Return of The Jedi. Though somehow Raiders turned out great and he produced that.

Though to be fair not everyone Can keep the same level of quality constant. The Huycks may have written 30% of star wars 1977 and American Graffiti, but they also wrote Howard the Duck, Temple of Doom, and Radioland Murders.

Kasden went off and made a Crappy Steven King Movie, and Kershner made Never Say never again.

At least Gary had some creative success with other projects Like Return to OZ and The Dark Crystal. Though financially he was finished, because Lucas cut him off and pretty much made sure he would never work in hollywood again and he never forgave him for empire strikes back going over budget, and Siding with Kersh instead of backing him up.

The power of star wars 77 and Raiders is all there in the editing and the human element infused by Marcia Lucas insistance .

 

It was never made a secret that Lucas better half was Marcia and without her he was definetely not half as much a filmmaker or human being without her.

Pollock Dale said it best when he remarked her skills as an editor and confidant on his movies smoothed out a lot of the weaker parts.

Lucas was never much for directing people in films, his strengths were mostly visual and technically related, he was not much of a writer or storyteller. Without all the writers and craftsmen whom he takes all the credit for their work his films would all be failures.

If you add up all the shit films and flops Between Lucas and Spielberg i wonder who has more, this would include as creative consultants or producers. Then you can add on the moneymakers that were crap even despite not being financial flops.

Speilberg: War of the Worlds, 1941, Temple of Doom. Kingdom Of the Crystal Skull, transformers.

Lucas: Howard the Duck, More American Graffiti. Star wars holiday special. episodes 1-3, clone wars. Young Indiana Jones, Kingdom of the crystal skull. Radioland Murders, Tucker the man and his dream, willow.