So Apparently Del Rey is putting out another shitty 9 novel series following Legacy of the Force. (Spoilers inside)

It follows The Novel Millenium Falcon by Troy Denning a hardcover, and the first book also a hardcover called Fate of the Jedi Part 1 is by Aaron Allston.

Thoughts?

I hated Legacy of the Force, besides its low points i found the NJO better.  Legacy destroyed the set ups and continuity of that series.

The bug trilogy was simply awful as well.

Killing Mara off was the single biggest offense that Del Rey could have done besides the retread of the prequels as Jacen Solo sith Lord Caedus killed by Jaina.  Absolutely retarded.

Wait.  They killed off Jacen too?  I knew he became a Sith, but I didn't know Jaina ended up killing him.

Why do they need to continually have a Sith rise up to control the galaxy every 50-100 years?  According to the PT, no Sith had been in power "for a millenia", so why the hell does it need to happen so often now?  Are the Jedi even dumber than they were before to continually let these Knights cross to the Dark Side and then take over the galaxy?

Why not try something new?  Instead of "the Sith of the week" or "the super weapon of the week", they could just present a conflict on a planet that someone needs to resolve.  Or they could write a book about one character, maybe something like I, Jedi.  Why continually rehash the same thing, over and over and over again.  It gets tiresome.  "Oh look, it's been 100 years since a Sith was in power and now there's one there again.  How did that happen?  Oh yeah, he got a bunch of bad guys together and slaughtered all the stupid Jedi who were to damn blind to see the shit happening...AGAIN!"

The Star Wars galaxy has been in a state of perpetual conflict since the PT.  You would think a group of people charged with "keeping the peace" would have learned something about seeing it coming by now.

I couldn't have said it any better.

Please, give us some stories about some other people or groups.  It does not have to continually revolve around Luke, Han, and Leia.  The galaxy is HUGE.  Give us an adventure around Baron Fel or anyone else.  Sure, if you haven't kept up, you won't be able to jump right in, but I don't think anyone can do that at this point anyway with all the crossovers and everything else.

At the same time, though, you have to admit that it's nice that at least somebody's paying attention to Luke/Han/Leia what with all the attention on the prequel era right now.

I find it amusing that the future series Legacy comics not the novels has Jedi Knights, Imperial Knights and Sith Knights, aka dark lords and apprentices.  Way too many Lightsaber wielding force users, why must every character be a Jedi or a Sith these days?

I know. Jedi have always been cool, but my favorite aspect of Star Wars has always been more in the dog fights, military stuff, and the world of crime and smugglers. The common people who are trying to survive and or fight for what they believe in in a cold and unjust galaxy that puts very little value on life. I remember how annoyed I was when Dark Forces 2 became Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight. That was the beginning of a long trend of giving everyone a lightsaber. It reminds me of when I was a little kid and me and my friends would be playing Star Wars and everyone wanted to be Luke so they could use the force and have a lightsaber. I don't know how many times I heard kids compromise by saying, okay, I'll be Han, but I still get to use the force and have a lightsaber. There is so much more to Star Wars than the Jedi and the force, unfortunately with the PT era we are now perpetually stuck in, EVERY hero has got to be a Jedi.

When I was a kid Wedge was always my absolute favorite character, and I never had to fight with the other kids in order to be him. That is also why I liked Dark Forces and Kyle Katarn so much, as well as Shadows of the Empire and Dash Render. Whatever bad things you can say about SOTE, I still find it 100% more Star Wars esque than the PT or anything I see on the shelfs or in advertisements today.

I also really liked the Boba Fett comics. I didn't feel they really fit all that well with the Boba Fett from the trilogy, but I enjoy seeing Fett placed in kind of an anti-hero Batman-like (costumed detective work with a lot of cool gagets) mercenary who solved mysteries and collected bounties. They too opened up a door to that part of the SW galaxy I really loved. The Dark Horse Droids comic were among my favorites as well, simply because they reached out into a part of the SW galaxy that was completely unfamiliar and had nothing to do with what we'd seen in the movies other than the fact they were told through the eyes of two very familiar characters.

Where are we now with the EU?  about 50 years after RotJ?

how long will it be before we have han luke and leia sitting in the nursing home sniping at each other?

Blackjack said:

Where are we now with the EU?  about 50 years after RotJ?

 

how long will it be before we have han luke and leia sitting in the nursing home sniping at each other?

 

 

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the Legacy series takes place 100 years after ROTJ.  From JediNet.com:

The future of Star Wars is here in an all-new series set more than a century after Return of the Jedi and the New Jedi Order!

The Jedi Temple is attacked, an Emperor is betrayed, and the Sith are born anew! A lot can happen in a hundred years, but all of the above happens just in this first issue! Not since Luke Skywalker first stepped aboard the Millennium Falcon has the galaxy seemed like such a vast, exciting, dangerous place!

See, they had to take the series that far out in order for people to accept that they wouldn't see Luke, Han, or Leia.

lordjedi said:Why do they need to continually have a Sith rise up to control the galaxy every 50-100 years?  According to the PT, no Sith had been in power "for a millenia", so why the hell does it need to happen so often now?  Are the Jedi even dumber than they were before to continually let these Knights cross to the Dark Side and then take over the galaxy?

Well, yes. The Jedi were practically extinct after RotS, and the Sith had controlled the galactic government for decades. After that, there was only Luke's nascent Jedi movement to mop up the remains of the Sith theocracy, and it took Luke years to train up additional Jedi. He didn't even have much in the way of formal Jedi training doctrine until the discovery of the Chu'unthor and the Baas Holocron. Meanwhile, the Sith machinery was operating almost unopposed.

Even if the Jedi had remained strong in the post-RotJ era, the galactic government was weak and susceptible to Sith coups. How long did it take the Republic to consolidate its control over the galaxy? Did it ever? Did the average galactic citizen even care whether Coruscant was controlled by a senatorial clique or a Sith?

For literary quality, yeah, I agree that new formulas should have been tried. Too few authors were creative enough, or given enough leeway, to try that. In-universe, I have to agree with KJA: If they Empire built one Death Star, they would've built other superweapons. Other powers would have built superweapons. As a corollary, if the Sith were powerful enough to take control of the government in 20 BBY, they would've been powerful enough to contend for control of the government in 20 ABY. Sith-of-the-week would be popping up for years.

If I were in charge of the EU, I'd keep the Sith/Jedi, Centralist/Federalist, Human/Non-human conflicts running in the background. I'd tell authors these are the setting, but need not be the plot. /soapbox

blackjack said:how long will it be before we have han luke and leia sitting in the nursing home sniping at each other?

I don't know. How long does it take wealthy, powerful humans to become senescent in the Star Wars galaxy? Many such humans today remain professionally and publicly active well into their seventies, and anti-aging technology in the SW galaxy must be superior to our own.

Scruffy said:

lordjedi said:Why do they need to continually have a Sith rise up to control the galaxy every 50-100 years?  According to the PT, no Sith had been in power "for a millenia", so why the hell does it need to happen so often now?  Are the Jedi even dumber than they were before to continually let these Knights cross to the Dark Side and then take over the galaxy?

Well, yes. The Jedi were practically extinct after RotS, and the Sith had controlled the galactic government for decades.

The Sith?  Try not to accept Lucas' rewriting of history to much.  Two Sith (Palpatine and Vader) pretty much controlled the galaxy for 23 years (20 years from ROTS to ANH, 3 years until ROTJ).  After that, the only thing to contend with was the imperial remnant and that pretty much got easier and easier as time went on.

So, Luke trains up a bunch of Jedi using what little knowledge he had or could find.  Sets up some basic rules that are actually a little looser than the old Jedi ways.  Then, lo and behold, 20 years after ROTJ, his own students start becoming Sith.  First it was Kyp Durron, he goes all Sith and then becomes a Jedi again.  Then one of the Solo kids.  Then this guy in Legacy.  How many times does it need to happen before people stop trying to "rescue" the fallen Jedi and instead just put them down right away?  How often does the galaxy need to suffer because some Jedi doesn't have the balls to take down his best friend or whoever it might be?  It's like none of them ever learn anything from history.  "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny."

Scruffy said:

For literary quality, yeah, I agree that new formulas should have been tried. Too few authors were creative enough, or given enough leeway, to try that. In-universe, I have to agree with KJA: If they Empire built one Death Star, they would've built other superweapons. Other powers would have built superweapons. As a corollary, if the Sith were powerful enough to take control of the government in 20 BBY, they would've been powerful enough to contend for control of the government in 20 ABY. Sith-of-the-week would be popping up for years.

I'd take KJA's answers with a big grain of salt.  I fully expect the Empire to build more than one super weapon, but I also expect Palpatine to have spies all over the place making sure no one else but him is making them.

As far as Sith taking over the govt 20 BBY, that's at least plausible since they had been thought to be extinct for "a millenia".  After that, I'd expect everyone to be on the look out for at least the next 100 years and be ready to put down anyone that even appeared to be taking over the government.  In short, I'd expect people to actually learn from history and not have these "surprises" come up with Sith taking over every 20-50 years.  Sith of the week wouldn't be popping up for years because I'd expect the citizens and the Jedi to take them out quickly.

If people in the real world were that stupid, we would have had at least two Hitlers by now.

The possibility does occur to me, though, that the reason the EU has put out so many books is that they do realize how prequel-era minded Lucas has become with his own entries into the property.  Granted, there have been plenty of PT-era EU, but there still have been recent books following Luke and co.  Maybe they are going too far, but I can't help think that they realize that there is a section of fandom (like us) that is being neglected by the Lucas machine and never-ending churning out of Clone Wars-era movies, TV shows, and other merchandise.