MTHaslett said:
Not a big James Bond fan, I take it.
not really, although there's a few sean connery ones [he WAS james bond] that i liked,
at least they had different enemies..
You left out that they were both shot on film and released by Paramount. By your list, the only way a sequel wouldn't be too much like ROTLA is if Indiana didn't go after artifiacts and fights badguys who try to take them from him and meet beautiful girls in exotic locations. You actually thought Indy fighting fez wearing grail protectors on speedboats was a rehash of Indy fighting the Nazi hired thugs in Marion's bar?
no, you're still missing my point, they DONT have to be exactly the same,
its just the timing, and sequence of events..
yeah, think about why TOD was better, even though it sucked overall:
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intro : completely wild fight scene in a club, and an awesome start
girl : meets the beautiful girl early on
location : ends up in a trap (plane), that takes him to india, that he has to escape
from..
plot : yeah, ok its more religious artifacts....lame....couldn't it be something else?
crazy bug/animal scene : the feast at the indian place .... lame....totally overdone..
and then the added scene with the bugs in the tunnel.....
bad guys : indian thugs ... very original .... at least they're not ...shhh..nazis..
wild chase scene : done on underground rail cars .... some points for originality ...
fight scene / dramatic moment : cutting the bridge in half ... amazing......
climactic fight with bad guy : yeah its there... but at least is not ....shhh. ...nazis
resolution : they actually return the stuff they were looking for
SEE, WAS IT THAT HARD TO CHANGE ALL THE ELEMENTS?
too bad though, because in itself the changes were ok, but put together,
they became a very tiring / boring / poorly orchestrated sequence of events...
The fact is ROTLA is the story of a skeptic learning to face real magic while TLC is the story of a man healing his long hurtful rift with his father. Yeah, they both have nazis, fights, artifacts and pretty girls, but so does Schindler's List. For TLC to have so many Indy trademarks worked into a completely different story is an accomplishment, not a cop-out. Sorry you don't see it that way.
didn't matter too me....
it's all about spiritual stuff (and i'm semi-religious christian).....so what difference did
it make? or how he got there, or if the lame dialogue with his father (which totally wasted
sean connery being in the film).......
you casually throw aside valid plot points, similarities, and structure, just because of
1 or 2 differences? and what about schindlers list? when did oscar go looking for
an artifact? what beautiful girl are you talking about? where was the big dramatic
fight scene ? what are you talking about?
is that the best comparison you could come up with?
don't you think alan quartermain and the city of gold, or the first one, were
actually better at cloning 'indiana jones', than the actual sequels themselves?
dont you think there were plenty of other parodies, and attempts that tried
to establish themselves : ie : romancing the stone, jewel of the nile...
give me a break, lucas and spielberg realized how big a turkey they had
with the second one, and desperately tried to return to the formula that
they had the first time, and failed miserably with the third, which pretty
much killed off the series..... luckily they were able to resurrect it with
something much more original the 4th time around..
later
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