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It's funny.  I was just thinking to myself today about one of the aspects unique to these boxsets.  I couldn't help but think it strange that the original trilogy is still being called the Star Wars Trilogy, considering that LFL is trying so hard to make us think of it as a hexology.  Going down that road, I realized that the PT is never really referred to in marketing as such... you know, as its own trilogy, which makes it even weirder to me that the the OT is still being referred to as the Star Wars Trilogy.  But I guess the prequels aren't usually lumped together by the marketing machine too much because they've never been released in a boxset before.  But it's still weird because you would think they'd finally release one big boxset, I-VI at this point in order to cement the point that they are "supposed" to be watched in numerical order as essentially one big movie.  So why are they still acknowledging that these are indeed two separate trilogies?  And by calling the OT the Star Wars Trilogy and the PT the Prequel Trilogy, it almost sounds like they're giving more credence to the OT, which is good but doesn't sound like LFL, which leads me to wonder too if this is real or not.

If it is real... meh.  Even if there is a restored OOT on these discs, I still probably won't pick them up.  I already own the trilogy on DVD three times over:  the '04 boxset because I figured that's all we were going to get, laserdisc rips of the '95 Faces set, and the GOUT (which is essentially laserdisc rips of the '95 Faces set ^_~).  But honestly, I only have a standard definition television, and the GOUT looks decent enough for me to enjoy it as irritating a release as that was.  But I'm done buying Star Wars on DVD.  If and when I get an HDTV, I'll want my Star Wars on a format that actually takes advantage of that.  If he wants to put the OOT on Blu-Ray... well, that might get my interest.  Therefore, whatever is on this new boxset is totally useless to me.  Honestly, I believe what several other people have speculated:  that this is just a boxset repackaging of the '06 release.  Of course, that's kinda funny since their whole big marketing ploy in '06 (besides theatrical versions) was that it was the first time to own the movies individually.

Oh, but the other day, I saw a big Star Wars display in Wal-Mart, advertising owning all six episodes.  It seemed strange to me that they'd be hyping the Star Wars movies so big this year (despite The Clone Wars).  Maybe this upcoming boxset is why.  Maybe they're trying to clear out their old stock.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Lucasfilm is releasing both trilogies in their own 3-movie sets. 2 DVDs for each film. No idea yet if we'll FINALLY see anamorphic versions of the ORIGINAL (non-special edition) trilogy.

Anway, here's all the info I have so far:


SRP: $49.98 (per set)

Star Wars Trilogy (6 Discs)
Street Date:
04/Nov/08



Audio: English: 5.1 Dolby Surround

Episode Description:
Disc 1: Star Wars: A New Hope WS Disc 1
Disc 2: Star Wars: A New Hope WS Disc 2
Disc 3: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back WS Disc 1
Disc 4: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back WS Disc 2
Disc 5: Star Wars: Return of the Jedi WS Disc 1
Disc 6: Star Wars: Return of the Jedi WS Disc 2


Star Wars Prequel Trilogy (6 Discs)
Street Date:
04/Nov/08



Audio: English: 5.1 Dolby Surround

Bonus Features:
Disc 1: Star Wars Episode 1 WS Disc 1
**Commentary by George Lucas and company

Disc 2: Star Wars Episode 1 WS Disc 2
**Never-before-seen Making of documentary
**Never-before-seen deleted scenes documentary featuring 7 deleted scenes finished in 5.1 Dolby Digital Sound
**2 animatics with multi-angles
**5 Featurettes
**12 original web documentaries
**Music Video: "Duel of the Fates"
**Production photos, print ads, theatrical trailers, TV spots, DVD-ROM - game demo

Disc 3: Star Wars Episode 2 WS Disc 1
**Commentary by George Lucas and Rick McCall
**Easter Egg
**THX Trailer - "Cavalcade"

Disc 4: Star Wars Episode 2 WS Disc 2
**2 Documentaries - "From Puppets to Pixels"and "State of the Art: Previsualization of Episode II"
**8 deleted scenes with intros
**Music Video, Visual Specs Breakdown
**12 Web Documentaries
**4 Trailers
**12 TV Spots
**Easter Egg
**Still Galleries
**DVD-ROM links

Disc 5: Star Wars Episode 3 WS Disc 1

Disc 6: Star Wars Episode 3 WS Disc 2
**Full-length documentary produced by Lucasfilm
**2 New Featurettes: One exploring the prophecy of Anakin Skywalker as The Chosen One, the other providing an in-depth look at the movie's eye-popping stunts
**15 part collection of Lucasfilm's groundbreaking "Web-documentaries"

 

 There seems to be absolutely nothing new about the Prequels release than their first individual release.  Only they are boxed together.  The Classic trilogy seems to fit the description of the GOUT release.  Also the only difference is that they are boxed together.

If we get some new crap-tacular cover art, then that might be the only real difference from what we already have.

Here are the contents of the previouos prequel releases from shop.starwars.com:

Episode I

"This 2-disk DVD set of Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace features commentary by writer-director George Lucas, producer Rick McCallum and more. Exclusive deleted-scenes documentary features seven new sequences. "The Beginning: Making Episode I," an all-new hour-long documentary film culled from over 600 hours of footage, including an insider's look at Lucasfilm and ILM during production. An award-winning twelve-part Web documentary series, never-before-seen production photo gallery, five featurettes, two multi-angle animatics of scenes in progress, "Duel of the Fates" music video featuring John Williams, DVD-ROM weblink to exclusive Star Wars content and much more! Available in widescreen anamorphic format."

Episode II

"This 2-disk DVD set of Star Wars Episode II Attack of the Clones features commentary by Writer-Director George Lucas; Producer Rick McCallum; Editor and Sound Designer Ben Burtt and more. Eight deleted scenes, three behind-the-scenes featurettes, 12 part web documentary of, "Making Episode II," "From Puppets to Pixels," an all-new, full-length documentary, "Across the Stars" music video featuring John Williams, DVD-ROM weblink to exclusive Star Wars content plus much more! Available in widescreen anamorphic format."

Episode III

"The two-disc Revenge of the Sith DVD includes 6 deleted scenes, a brand-new, full-length documentary produced by Lucasfilm Ltd.; two new featurettes -- one exploring the prophecy of Anakin Skywalker as the Chosen One, the other providing an in-depth look at the movie's eye-popping stunts; a 15-part collection of Lucasfilm's groundbreaking "web documentaries and the 78-minute documentary "Within a Minute."

The Revenge of the Sith DVD also offers access to a special Xbox-playable demo of two entire levels from LucasArts' Star Wars Battlefront II."

 

 

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skyjedi2005 said:

 

"George has proven he can no longer tell a good story without whoring his cgi wares."

 

 

What are you talking about? GL hasn't made anything good since he started "whoring his cgi wares."

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What i meant was star wars no longer exists to tell a story. It only exists as a marketing thing for Lucas computer division to show how advanced their effects are.

To get other directors and artists to hire them for projects.

 

Star Wars is the dead horse that has been beaten into dust, the cash cow that lucas whored out to become a billionaire, whilst tarnishing his reputation as a reputable storyteller and filmaker.

 

The whole process of consolidating Both ILM and the games devision lucasarts into one thing was done because they basically did the same thing computer animation, Lucas opened up the presidio for this. 

Also the end of in house development by Lucasarts and all their future games being outsourced cannot be a case other than greed.

Same thing with starting a animation company in singapore to outsource animation to, to take jobs away from American animators.

Lucas is nothing but another Media Conglomerate businessman.  He lacks any creative input or a vision.

His "vision" was to destroy the only good movies he ever made.

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Even double and triple dipping usually involves some actual new content in the extras or transfer. We need a new word for whatever this is. Selling the same stuff from years ago, it's kind of hilarious, like a used car dealer rolling back the miles on an old junker. (The Phantom Menace extras are like 8 years old at this point, and of course the most classy extra is from 1993) Now if it actually includes the restored originals, I'll be glad to eat my words.

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I'm not sure this is real, you'd think there would be more publicity on it since it's coming out in November which is only 2 and a half months away. With the GOUT we first got news on it back in May '06, a good 4 and a half months before its release. Why so little detail on what comes with the OT set? I wonder if Lucasfilm is still trying to decide what to put on the disks. I'm pretty sure Lucasfilm wants to do an all six movie set, if this set is real, it will probably be another two years before we see all the movies in one set.

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skyjedi2005 said:

What i meant was star wars no longer exists to tell a story. It only exists as a marketing thing for Lucas computer division to show how advanced their effects are.

To get other directors and artists to hire them for projects.

 

Star Wars is the dead horse that has been beaten into dust, the cash cow that lucas whored out to become a billionaire, whilst tarnishing his reputation as a reputable storyteller and filmaker.

 

The whole process of consolidating Both ILM and the games devision lucasarts into one thing was done because they basically did the same thing computer animation, Lucas opened up the presidio for this.

Also the end of in house development by Lucasarts and all their future games being outsourced cannot be a case other than greed.

Same thing with starting a animation company in singapore to outsource animation to, to take jobs away from American animators.

Lucas is nothing but another Media Conglomerate businessman. He lacks any creative input or a vision.

His "vision" was to destroy the only good movies he ever made.

 

George Lucas should just stick to producing video games. He likes to boss computer animators around and it seems to be the only thing he is good at. He even admitted he doesn't like writing and directing and it shows! Why doesn't he just stick to what he likes doing. Producing video games. I think I read somewhere that at one time before the prequels were made someone suggested to GL to just stick to producing animated movies because they recognized his lack of skills/interest in writing and directing movies.

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Wow I feel like I've woken up in Eristormtrooper's alternate universe today.

I believe this to be real. It looks to be in the same shitty style and weak cardboard box that only Lucasfilm could come up with.

Although I don't think my opinion is documented I knew this would be the case.

Everyone had their hopes that Indy would get a blu-ray release this year and Star Wars next year. I had a feeling Star Wars would be released at least one more time with no substantial difference from the previous release. Though I'm suprised by the seperate trilogies, for lack of a better word I thought the 2 box sets would be released as a 6 movie saga box set.

If the OT box set contains the GOUT I have little doubt it will be exactly like the '06 discs. Not remastered and non anamorphic. Can you imagine the Lucasfilm hype that would accompany the announcement of a remastered OOT? That would be the biggest selling point, not swept under the rug like with this release.

Maybe the biggest questions we should be asking is will this release contain a CG Yoda in TPM and further updates to the SE's. Not that a give a crap about anything other than the OOT but they're valid questions that could possibly warrant a new release in some people's opinion. I think yes to Yoda and no to SE updates.

The biggest kick to my nuts with this release would be if Lucasfilm includes the '06 GOUT the only difference being an anamorphic transfer. Because then technically that would be a step up from the current set I own yet if I chose to buy it I'd be giving them more cash and having to buy the same SE's again that I don't want. But I don't think I'll be faced with that dilemma anyway.

 

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Yeah, I'm glad I didn't bother buying the GOUT. Why can't Lucas just handle this like a man and quit being a selfish prick? I'm thinking about searching the web for a laser disc player and laser disc prints of the OOT. I think SW and SW extras might be the most fun to watch on an old format. Something about watching it on an old technology just makes it special. The first time I watched SW was on a Sony beta max. I think that made it special in a way.

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see you auntie said:

The biggest kick to my nuts with this release would be if Lucasfilm includes the '06 GOUT the only difference being an anamorphic transfer. Because then technically that would be a step up from the current set I own yet if I chose to buy it I'd be giving them more cash and having to buy the same SE's again that I don't want. But I don't think I'll be faced with that dilemma anyway.

 

 

I would literally laugh out loud if this happened.

But hey, the visual quality of the GOUT was good enough that I'd be happy at the DVD level if it was anamorphic, as that would remove the jaggies. But not for a Blu-ray transfer.

I can live with 80% of the SE additions. I even like the PT (overall). But not releasing the OOT in respectable condition? That's unacceptable.

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Well, if a basic new transfer of the original versions were to be made, without the full-on Robert Harris treatment, what's the best way? Would they do a straight transfer of the 1997 version, and then drop in the old shots where they're needed? How long would that take? (I know it ain't happening most likely, I'm just wondering what they're charging 50 bucks for.)

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^^ Interesting question I don't know the answer though.

I had another thought on a dilema I might have. I hope Lucasfilm doesn't repeat history and go the same route they did with the Indy dvds they released back in May this year. It was the same Indy dvds as the previous release except some propaganda... I mean promotional material for the 4th film, but the thing that got me to buy them was the awesome cover art.

I already owned the first Indy box set but I was willing to rebuy the movies individually for the theatrical posters on the covers because they were oh so sweet. That and the fact that I had already seen the 4th film that I pretend doesn't exist and knew there wasn't a chance I was going let that on dvd enter my home, so a future Indy box set and potential triple-dip was out of the question.

Even if this new OT box set contains theatrical poster cover art I won't buy it, but I'll be just that little bit tempted if it does.

 

 

"Well here's a big bag of rock salt" - Patton Oswalt

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Baronlando said:

Well, even though it's most likely just a repackage of the shitty 2006 discs, look at it this way: the original versions have now been widely released TWICE, so much for the whole Integrity of Lucas' Vision BS holding things up, at least that's been put to rest.

 

Yeah, and what's weird is that I didn't even notice this thread until after posting in the Star Wars: Take Two thread. What I was going to say there, but didn't, is that Lucas has already thrown out the window all credibility as to an artistic stance by releasing the original versions at all. "Now we'll see who wants them, it'll all come out in the end, etc." As you said baron, we're now getting them for the second time when they were supposed to be limited editions. Hell, I still saw them on sale at Borders recently next to all of their other star wars stuff (mostly the new Clone Wars books, in addition to stuff like the paperback of Allegiance, etc).

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These are legit, as they are up for pre-order on www.dvd.empire.com.  The specs are not listed, but the artwork is the same.  Lucas suprises me again how he constantly says in every interview and commentary that the 6 movies are one giant story and should not be seen as 2 trilogies, and then he goes out and sells 2 trilogy boxsets!  Man he must see a shrink while he lays in all his money:)

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Well, here's to naively getting my hopes up, like a big schmuck! (hey after all, if there was going to be a proper presentation of the originals, he might want it to be in a release like this, one that sneaks in through the back door without a lot of hoopla. He still gets the money, but without all the hassle and bad press of yet another big manufactured-hype event)

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What disgusting cover art. And I don't like the prominence of Darth Vader in each; the original trilogy is not about Darth Vader. Bah.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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I emailed Bill Hunt at www.thedigitalbits.com, to see if he could find out any info on this set, as he is always on top of anything that comes out from Lucas. 

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I think I've lost all interest in star wars. The whole thing has just left a sour taste in my mouth and I can't enjoy watching them anymore. Partially my own fault of course. Even if there comes a decent OOT release I don't want to pay any more money for it.

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Even if there comes a decent OOT release I don't want to pay any more money for it.

That is where I respectfully disagree with you.  If this OT set does contain a fully restored OOT, (which it probably won't), but if it does, I think we can close the book as future SW fans and just enjoy what made us fans in the first place.  What keeps me on SW boards routinely when I am bored at work is days like these when you see a new boxset of the movies and maybe Lucas finally got it right. 

If you hate the PT, the SE, the EU, anything new from SW, thats fine, but if Lucas does put out the OOT in great quality, we are essentially freed from jail and can enjoy the real versions again, and this site wont exist, and for all purposes in my SW fandom, I can close the book on caring about anything as to what Lucas does.  It is just like when I got the Donnor Cut on DVD 2 years ago, I could care less where they take the franchise, I have the versions I enjoy for Superman.

 

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Were the GOUT discs THX mastered?

 

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One of these days Lucas is gonna learn he can't keep treating us like shit, or not.

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Janskeet said:

One of these days Lucas is gonna learn he can't keep treating us like shit, or not.

 

 See, if this boxset is the same disks from the previous sets, this wont sell well.  As only people who have young kids and don't own the previous DVD will buy them, and the collectors will too, but at this point that is a small minority.

I do agree with Baronlando, even the Rocky Boxsets had SOMETHING new in them everytime, just to sway the consumer that they are getting something different.  I just can't see a large % of SW fans buying for new boxart?