The 2008 'The Clone Wars' animated theatrical movie - a general discussion thread — Page 8

Really? Only a second later in the detention block, a guard with an imperial trooper helmet takes one in the chest (which is still in the movie). It certainly seems like one of those ratings things, like the big helmet makes the character seem less human, hence the blast impact is ok.

See that is what is so fucked up about the special editions.

They fixed some matte lines and left other ones still in, removed and censored some violent scenes and left others in.

It is like they either did not notice, were lazy, or this was Lucas half baked attempt at his perfect "vision".

Supposedly PG-13 was created because of Temple Of Doom though till this day the movie remains PG.

And Lucas coerced the ratings censors to give Revenge of the Sith a PG-13 though it clearly deserved an R rating for the mustafar scenes, where anakin is dissmembered and burns up in the lava, also the beheading of dooku at the beginning of the movie and anakins murder of children though not shown.

Luke Getting his hand cut off in Empire was violent enough in 1980 to get it banned in some countries.

Either way, the whole thing is pretty silly.  No matter which version you're watching, the whole thing is over in a fraction of a second and neither version is particularly graphic or violent.  There is no blood, gore, or strong change in appearance to the body.  It's just a red line hitting a chest.  It all happens so fast that I never even noticed the change until seven years after it happened, and only then when I read about it on a website.

Once again, compared to the burning skeletons of Owen and Beru, the numerous losses of limb in later movies, and the whole Anakin burn victim thing, it really makes me wonder why Lucas would feel that strongly about something so minor.

BTW, has anyone seen the SW bobbleheads that they have at McDonalds? It's supposed to be a Clone Wars-tie in, but most of them are actually OT characters, the remainder being PT and Clone Wars characters.

The only OT ones they had available were Wicket on a speederbike and C-3P0 on a landspeeder, so I bought those. The others in the display case were very cool-looking as well (Han on the Falcon, Luke on an X-wing, Leia on the Tantive, Vader on a Tie-fighter, etc.)

I had no idea they had these at McD's until I walked in there today. I haven't seen any ads for them (but then, I don't watch TV shows that are geared towards children).

EDIT: Here's a demo of the toys- just click 'next' to see each one:

SW bobbleheads- Mcdonalds

Clone Wars was revised downward again.  By about another million.  So if it had a $10 mil budget, it's just barely a success.  Pretty sad that a Star Wars movie premieres in number 3 and makes less than $15 mil opening weekend.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2008&wknd=33&p=.htm

Got any pics of those toys Mielr?  Those actually sound pretty cool.  I'll buy pretty much anything OT related these days.  I just avoid all the PT stuff.  I think that sends a strong enough message.

EDIT: Nevermind.  I found a photo on TFN :P  They look...um...funny...in a strange way.

I don't recall Empire being banned, but several countries did cut that shot out, which probably confused the hell out of people!

There is probably a bit of a double standard with the MPAA when it comes to people being shot by scifi weapons vs. real guns.

Note how a movie like Star Trek 6 gets away with oodles of Klingon blood in a PG film by making it look like pepto bismol. ;)

The original Star Wars movie novelization is actually pretty graphic in some of it's descriptions of stormtroopers getting shot.

SilverWook said:

Note how a movie like Star Trek 6 gets away with oodles of Klingon blood in a PG film by making it look like pepto bismol. ;)

Yeah, but also note how Star Trek 6 seems to have inspired every planetary-sized explosion in Star Wars to be accompanied by a giant, fiery ring that causes Sulu to break his tea cup.  Poor Sulu.  Er, I mean, poor Star Wars.

SilverWook said:

Note how a movie like Star Trek 6 gets away with oodles of Klingon blood in a PG film by making it look like pepto bismol. ;)

Making bloody scenes black and white, as Tarantino discovered, will also get you around ratings like an NC-17 :)

Crygor64 said:

And to the profit bean counters, Clone Wars is part of a TV series that has already been bought and paid for.  The only costs on the movie are promotion and making the prints. Anything above that is pure profit. I'm sure Lucas is happy.  This movie is really a commercial for the TV show anyway.

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On a side note, Clone Wars is head over heels above current kids TV shows like Ben 10, Transformers Animated, etc...  I'm glad the kids have something fun to watch.  I know I will be sure to set my Tivo.

Something tells me Cartoon Network didn't buy all 5 seasons in one shot, like Lucas wanted.  I'm sure they bought the movie and one season and are going to see how it does before signing on for more.  We'll see how well the actual TV series does.  Promotional costs are high no matter how you look at it.  If you can't make back your promotional costs from box office grosses, you're looking at a loss.

Clone Wars may be better than that crap, but that doesn't mean that stuff isn't crap too.  There's plenty of good shows for kids of all ages to watch.  We have no trouble finding something for our kid to watch and it doesn't include those shows.  Of course, he's barely two, so he's mostly just watching really little kid shows.

Well i succomed to my curiosoity and watched TCW. Now i am desperately hoping someone here can help me out with something......

HOW THE HELL CAN I ERASE THIS PIECE OF SHIT FROM MY MEMORY????

I've been a fan of Star Wars since 1977. The PT, though not of the same calibre as the OT, i still enjoyed seeing for the first time. But this... How the hell anyone can say this is good is beyond me.

This should have remained what it was meant to be and that is a TV cartoon series. Releasing 3 episodes strung together is an insult to Star Wars fans. So its supposed to be aimed at kids. So why not just keep it for the TV where the kids can watch it for free? Money, that's the only reason. Lets see.... kids tickets are usually half the price of adult ones so the parents then have to take their kids to the cinema and pay full price. Great, now more money is coming in. Well not from me. I'm just glad i didn't pay to have to sit through this abomination. The fanboy excuse of "see it through a child's eyes" is complete crap.Most  kids that were at the showing were restless and bored, some even leaving half way through. i have never seen this at any other Star Wars movie i have ever watched at the cinema.

What happened to the promise that the animation would "not be like anything we've seen before"? well i, for one, am glad we have never seen anything like it before because the animation was truly outdated. there was just no suspense in any part of the movie. All the battles, we knew who lives, so they became pointless and boring. Why keep flogging the clone wars to death? They could have done so much with an animated series without having to go over old ground.

Lucas screwed up with AOTC when we never got to see the clone wars, as he had promised, so we now get lumbered with this.

Call me a hater as much as you want, but know this before you generalise me.... i wasn't, until now.

I checked rotten tomatoes again today, to see if there were any new reviews up. There are 2 new reviews, both bad (NY Times and Richard Roeper).

For those of you keeping score, it has dipped again to 18% for the T-Meter Critics (down from 19%) and is now at 4% for the Top Critics (down from 5%). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/clone_wars/?critic=creamcrop

This movie is an even bigger turkey than x files 2 or mummy 3.

"sucks this movie does" -Richard Roeper intones as yoda.

An even bigger dissapointment and middle finger to the fans than Indiana Jones IV.

It is like many reviews have stated an overly bloated video game cutscene and hasbro action figure commercial rolled into one.

It has the most wooden and worst animation i have ever seen, there is no fluid motion and the characters bad dialogue is just as wooden and inane.

This is the biggest Turkey with the star wars name on it since the holiday special and the Phantom menace.

Way to go Lucash, i am glad that fans now know just what a hack and lack of imagination you have become these days.

Put a fork in this turkey folks, all that is needed is mash potatoes and gravy and  you get an instant thanksgiving dinner, LOL.  at the wrong time of year.

I wonder if it will get nominated for a Razzie? :-P

EDIT: I SWEAR I wrote that BEFORE I saw this site! ROFLMAO!!!!!! :-D

http://www.razzies.com/

I almost saw CW tonight, but was really tired after seeing Tropic Thunder. (Which really skewers the heck out of Hollywood.) So I can't curse it with every fiber of my being yet.

Look on the bright side, the Rifftrax crew will probably have a field day with it. :)

Crygor64 said:

adywan said:

Well i succomed to my curiosoity and watched TCW. Now i am desperately hoping someone here can help me out with something......

HOW THE HELL CAN I ERASE THIS PIECE OF SHIT FROM MY MEMORY????

 

Call me a hater as much as you want, but know this before you generalise me.... i wasn't, until now.

 

Since your little "fanboy jab was directed at me I'll just say this:

Your "Star Wars Revisited" is merely "Star Wars: The Extra Special Edition."  So by OT.com standards your opinion on this matter is invalid.  You are as bad as Lucas if not worse.  You know what would make Star Wars even better?  More Tie Fighters! (lol)

We need less childish drama over this kids movie.  Didn't like it?  Too bad. Stop acting like Lucas has slighted you personally.  Some of you just need to let it go. 

This isn't like Greedo shooting first.  This isn't the Prequel Trilogy.  Its a kids movie.  Its fun and incredibly stupid.  Some of you have forgotten how to experience joy.  Others are just too old for this shit.  Most people who saw the original SW in the theaters are at or over 40 years old.  That's your problem right there.  Well that and a complete lack of youthful imagination.

 <yawn>

Please don't feed the troll.

Since your little "fanboy jab was directed at me I'll just say this:

Your "Star Wars Revisited" is merely "Star Wars: The Extra Special Edition."  So by OT.com standards your opinion on this matter is invalid.  You are as bad as Lucas if not worse.  You know what would make Star Wars even better?  More Tie Fighters! (lol)

We need less childish drama over this kids movie.  Didn't like it?  Too bad. Stop acting like Lucas has slighted you personally.  Some of you just need to let it go. 

This isn't like Greedo shooting first.  This isn't the Prequel Trilogy.  Its a kids movie.  Its fun and incredibly stupid.  Some of you have forgotten how to experience joy.  Others are just too old for this shit.  Most people who saw the original SW in the theaters are at or over 40 years old.  That's your problem right there.  Well that and a complete lack of youthful imagination.

for gods sake, grow up and go back to TFN. it wasn't directed at you at all. Actually what you said was almost word for word from other sites so it was a generalised quote.  And just because i have done a fan edit of the SE doesn't make my opinion on the Clone Wars invalid at all. Maybe you should do some research about the edit and about me before your childish attacks. You have just proved you know nothing at all, which makes your comments a lot more invalid than mine ever could be. sheesh, i guess you were bottle fed.

You just don't get it do you. It has nothing to do with how old someone is. If i had become too old and have no youthful imagination then i wouldn't still like Star Wars would i? and i also wouldn't have like the original Clone Wars cartoon either or anything else that specifically aimed at kids, but i do. This movie was horrendous , no matter how old you are. but there are still people out there that will say its good just because it has the tag "Star Wars" and will continue to defend any piece of crap that Lucas keeps on putting out. If this was good then i would have said that it was, but it wasn't and the majority of the world tend to agree.

And i probably have more "youthful imagination" as you call it than you ever could. and i did see it through a childs eyes: an 8 year old kid who loves Sci-Fi & Star Wars but hated the movie. And isn't the best critic for a movie aimed at kids is a child? enough said.